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@beach-mom wrote:

We also have to remember that it is invisible. If you find yourself in a space where two minutes before someone who is positive coughed or sneezed and touched something you're about to touch, you could be in trouble. 

 

A while back, one victim's husband said his wife had been staying home and decided one day to do four quick errands, including picking up a few groceries. The man behind her in line sneezed. That was it, and THAT'S what I pay attention to. HE may have been fine, but she paid the ultimate price for standing in that line. 

 

Even though most are still complying with the current stay-at-home orders, I see people getting lax. The spring weather and sunshine are drawing people out, without social distancing. 

 

I'm staying home. This is a new world. 


A friend in the heart of Manhattan supports your observation. He says he's amazed; every time he passes the window and looks out, he sees tons of people mingling, most without masks or with masks pulled down to their necks, talking to each other. It's as if, with the warmer weather and the messaging from states that are relaxing their rules, people whose rules haven't changed at all are going ahead with relaxing anyway. BTW, this is new, something he's seen only the past couple of days. He's very concerned.

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Re: The JOB OF COVID19

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What concerns me as I read more information about masks, breathing in and out onto a moist mask is not healthy nor is continually breathing in our own carbon dioxide from exhaling into one.  I do wear a mask but I think it's better to just keep staying home even when businesses open....until we have a bonafide cure or similar facsimile.  

 

Also, I don't understand covid-19's connection to hiv.  That is unprecedented in a corona virus, right?  Maybe that's why this is attacking more than respiratory.  I could handle venturing outside when businesses open if it was only respiratory but not everything else patients are experiencing... even after they are sent home.  

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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

What concerns me as I read more information about masks, breathing in and out onto a moist mask is not healthy nor is continually breathing in our own carbon dioxide from exhaling into one.  I do wear a mask but I think it's better to just keep staying home even when businesses open....until we have a bonafide cure or similar facsimile.  

 

Also, I don't understand covid-19's connection to hiv.  That is unprecedented in a corona virus, right?  Maybe that's why this is attacking more than respiratory.  I could handle venturing outside when businesses open if it was only respiratory but not everything else patients are experiencing... even after they are sent home.  


@germanshepherdlove, what is the connection?


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First, the title of this makes me think of Job from the Old Testament. I was thinking gee, did some poor guy get COVID-19 13 times and then get leprosy on top of it and then have a house fall on him?

 

Second, to me, the job of COVID-19 has been to show people's true colors. A dead person is still dead, a sick person is still sick. Lying about it is pointless. And when you can't lie and you can't spin and you can't blame, either you work on fixing the problem or you don't. I'm seeing a lot of rhetoric from a wide variety of people (not just the ones I already disliked) for what it really is. Some people are grounded in what they say and they really mean it, for good or bad. Other people, you can see how their words always float around in a conceptual layer and never quite land on reality.

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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

What concerns me as I read more information about masks, breathing in and out onto a moist mask is not healthy nor is continually breathing in our own carbon dioxide from exhaling into one.  I do wear a mask but I think it's better to just keep staying home even when businesses open....until we have a bonafide cure or similar facsimile.  

 

Also, I don't understand covid-19's connection to hiv.  That is unprecedented in a corona virus, right?  Maybe that's why this is attacking more than respiratory.  I could handle venturing outside when businesses open if it was only respiratory but not everything else patients are experiencing... even after they are sent home.  


@germanshepherdlove, what is the connection?


I don't know for sure but something that even the experts Dr Fauci and Dr Birx alluded to early on as that is their area of expertise.  Something about a segment found in the sequencing of this virus not found before in a corona virus.  @suzyQ3 

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

@germanshepherdlove wrote:

What concerns me as I read more information about masks, breathing in and out onto a moist mask is not healthy nor is continually breathing in our own carbon dioxide from exhaling into one.  I do wear a mask but I think it's better to just keep staying home even when businesses open....until we have a bonafide cure or similar facsimile.  

 

Also, I don't understand covid-19's connection to hiv.  That is unprecedented in a corona virus, right?  Maybe that's why this is attacking more than respiratory.  I could handle venturing outside when businesses open if it was only respiratory but not everything else patients are experiencing... even after they are sent home.  


@germanshepherdlove, what is the connection?


I don't know for sure but something that even the experts Dr Fauci and Dr Birx alluded to early on as that is their area of expertise.  Something about a segment found in the sequencing of this virus not found before in a corona virus.  @suzyQ3 


@germanshepherdlove, I'm skeptical about any connection to HIV other than both created so much misery. If you do have any sources, though, I would take a look.


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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

What concerns me as I read more information about masks, breathing in and out onto a moist mask is not healthy nor is continually breathing in our own carbon dioxide from exhaling into one.  I do wear a mask but I think it's better to just keep staying home even when businesses open....until we have a bonafide cure or similar facsimile.  

 

Also, I don't understand covid-19's connection to hiv.  That is unprecedented in a corona virus, right?  Maybe that's why this is attacking more than respiratory.  I could handle venturing outside when businesses open if it was only respiratory but not everything else patients are experiencing... even after they are sent home.  


@germanshepherdlove 

Could you maybe have misunderstood something that you heard or read?  I can’t find anything online connecting COVID-19 to HIV. 

 

If I’ve missed something here, I apologize. But please give your source. 

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@germanshepherdlove , @suzyQ3 , and @suzyQ3 - I think the HIV "connection" is the expert doctors' connection to that disease. That may be what is confusing. I don't think this pandemic has anything to do with HIV, other than the fact that HIV patients might be immunocompromised. Another similarity might be that both viruses wiped out large groups of people. 

 

Dr. Fauci was the expert face of HIV/AIDS back in the 80's and was the doctor we saw on our TV's all of the time. He was and is the director of NIH and is one of the first to research HIV/AIDS. Dr. Birx was an active duty military doctor at the time specializing in immunology. Her interest was  HIV/AIDS and vaccine research. They have worked together for almost 40 years, starting with their work on HIV/AIDS, and Dr. Birx thinks of Dr. Fauci as her mentor.  

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"This HIV/AIDS/ specialist explains its similarties and differences to Covid-19" Forbes Magazine 04/22/20

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"Coronavirus could attack immune system like HIV by targeting protective cells, warn scientists"

 

Author: Stephen Chen

12, Apr, 2020