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[dooBdoo]

1 - washing/rinsing raw chicken doesn’t remove the dangerous bacteria
2 - washing/rinsing raw chicken does splatter tiny droplets in the surrounding area, including the clothing, the person’s face/arms, etc.
3 - no one can always know where the droplets went, so they can’t always apply bleach in all those areas
4 - and the raw chicken, meanwhile, still has the bacteria on it

As I said before, I’ve talked about this with professionals at various hospitals, watched their presentations. A couple of my friends (the husband is the chief M.D. in the ER at our largest hospital, his wife is a scrub nurse there) are gourmet chefs, and they cringe at the old ideas about “washing” raw chicken. I’ll go with that, and with the recommendations of those wacky scientists and researchers at places like the CDC rather than the opinion pieces on various blogs.

I have no idea why anyone would do otherwise, but I do feel it’s a part of the odd trend to reject science. However, in this case, since this extra step in handling the raw meat doesn’t even rid it of bacteria… I really don’t comprehend the determination to follow old ideas.

[raven-blackbird]

On 7/7/2014 scotttie said:

On 7/6/2014 chrystaltree said:

I can't speak for anyone else but when I wash poultry, I don't stand in the middle of the kitchen with a high speed power washer...lol. I'm pretty sure I'm not spreading germs all over my kitchen when I rinse my chicken under cold running water. And if I am, I'll continue because died yet. My mother did it for 60 years and she didn't kill any family members either.

Me either!

scottie...........a lot of that spatter they are talking about isn't really visible to the naked eye........much like when you flush a toilet, you send water droplets out into the bathroom and a good reason not to store your toothbrush near the edge of the sink closest to the toilet........wash the chicken or not, if it's cooked to the right temp, you'll kill off most of the bacteria.........the problem is anything else around that area........and you may have had a bit of a tummy thing, at one time or another, and not even connected to chicken.......because it wasn't actually the chicken but the surrounding surfaces................................raven

[Lumming]

On 7/7/2014 scotttie said:

On 7/7/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 7/7/2014 Lumming said:

According to this article the only reason the CDC is recommending not washing your chicken before cooking is because people don't know how or are too lazy to clean properly afterwards.

The theory, according to the CDC and the Food Safety Agency is that approximately 50% of all raw poultry contains Campylobacter bacteria - when people wash it they inevitably spread the bacteria from the raw chicken to nearby surfaces when water droplets bounce off the raw poultry, thereby contaminating the surfaces (including counters, cutting boards, utensils, hands, arms, clothing, etc).

Since most people don't bleach the area, or they tend to wipe the area with a clean cloth, (rather than using hot soapy water), the bacteria are rapidly spread to other surfaces, where they multiply and cause cross contamination.

http://www.budget101.com/frugal-living-articles/why-you-should-never-wash-raw-chicken-4736.html

I think that was pretty clear in the discussion which talked about spatter from washing the chicken.

No you and a couple of others have been insisting that you shouldn't wash chicken at all. Why backtracking now?

Exactly. No ifs, ands, or buts.

[dooBdoo]

1 - washing/rinsing raw chicken doesn’t remove the dangerous bacteria
2 - washing/rinsing raw chicken does splatter tiny droplets in the surrounding area, including the clothing, the person’s face/arms, etc.
3 - no one can always know where the droplets went, so they can’t always apply bleach in all those areas
4 - and the raw chicken, meanwhile, still has the bacteria on it

As I said before, I’ve talked about this with professionals at various hospitals, watched their presentations. A couple of my friends (the husband is the chief M.D. in the ER at our largest hospital, his wife is a scrub nurse there) are gourmet chefs, and they cringe at the old ideas about “washing” raw chicken. I’ll go with that, and with the recommendations of those wacky scientists and researchers at places like the CDC rather than the opinion pieces on various blogs.

I have no idea why anyone would do otherwise, but I do feel it’s a part of the odd trend to reject science. However, in this case, since this extra step in handling the raw meat doesn’t even rid it of bacteria… I really don’t comprehend the determination to follow old ideas.

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I always wash my chicken, beef, lamb or whatever. You never know if it's been dropped on the filthy ground, picked up then packaged.

Yuck.

[scotttie]

On 7/7/2014 dooBdoo said:

1 - washing/rinsing raw chicken doesn’t remove the dangerous bacteria
2 - washing/rinsing raw chicken does splatter tiny droplets in the surrounding area, including the clothing, the person’s face/arms, etc.
3 - no one can always know where the droplets went, so they can’t always apply bleach in all those areas
4 - and the raw chicken, meanwhile, still has the bacteria on it

As I said before, I’ve talked about this with professionals at various hospitals, watched their presentations. A couple of my friends (the husband is the chief M.D. in the ER at our largest hospital, his wife is a scrub nurse there) are gourmet chefs, and they cringe at the old ideas about “washing” raw chicken. I’ll go with that, and with the recommendations of those wacky scientists and researchers at places like the CDC rather than the opinion pieces on various blogs.

I have no idea why anyone would do otherwise, but I do feel it’s a part of the odd trend to reject science. However, in this case, since this extra step in handling the raw meat doesn’t even rid it of bacteria… I really don’t comprehend the determination to follow old ideas.

Lumming's article was from the CDC.

[tansy]

On 7/7/2014 dooBdoo said:

1 - washing/rinsing raw chicken doesn’t remove the dangerous bacteria
2 - washing/rinsing raw chicken does splatter tiny droplets in the surrounding area, including the clothing, the person’s face/arms, etc.
3 - no one can always know where the droplets went, so they can’t always apply bleach in all those areas
4 - and the raw chicken, meanwhile, still has the bacteria on it

As I said before, I’ve talked about this with professionals at various hospitals, watched their presentations. A couple of my friends (the husband is the chief M.D. in the ER at our largest hospital, his wife is a scrub nurse there) are gourmet chefs, and they cringe at the old ideas about “washing” raw chicken. I’ll go with that, and with the recommendations of those wacky scientists and researchers at places like the CDC rather than the opinion pieces on various blogs.

I have no idea why anyone would do otherwise, but I do feel it’s a part of the odd trend to reject science. However, in this case, since this extra step in handling the raw meat doesn’t even rid it of bacteria… I really don’t comprehend the determination to follow old ideas.

The outliers here have decided to wash their chicken, dognabbit, doo.

[scotttie]

On 7/7/2014 raven-blackbird said:

On 7/7/2014 scotttie said:

On 7/6/2014 chrystaltree said:

I can't speak for anyone else but when I wash poultry, I don't stand in the middle of the kitchen with a high speed power washer...lol. I'm pretty sure I'm not spreading germs all over my kitchen when I rinse my chicken under cold running water. And if I am, I'll continue because died yet. My mother did it for 60 years and she didn't kill any family members either.

Me either!

scottie...........a lot of that spatter they are talking about isn't really visible to the naked eye........much like when you flush a toilet, you send water droplets out into the bathroom and a good reason not to store your toothbrush near the edge of the sink closest to the toilet........wash the chicken or not, if it's cooked to the right temp, you'll kill off most of the bacteria.........the problem is anything else around that area........and you may have had a bit of a tummy thing, at one time or another, and not even connected to chicken.......because it wasn't actually the chicken but the surrounding surfaces................................raven

Thanks raven. I understand that.

[Lumming]

On 7/7/2014 dooBdoo said:

1 - washing/rinsing raw chicken doesn’t remove the dangerous bacteria
2 - washing/rinsing raw chicken does splatter tiny droplets in the surrounding area, including the clothing, the person’s face/arms, etc.
3 - no one can always know where the droplets went, so they can’t always apply bleach in all those areas
4 - and the raw chicken, meanwhile, still has the bacteria on it

As I said before, I’ve talked about this with professionals at various hospitals, watched their presentations. A couple of my friends (the husband is the chief M.D. in the ER at our largest hospital, his wife is a scrub nurse there) are gourmet chefs, and they cringe at the old ideas about “washing” raw chicken. I’ll go with that, and with the recommendations of those wacky scientists and researchers at places like the CDC rather than the opinion pieces on various blogs.

I have no idea why anyone would do otherwise, but I do feel it’s a part of the odd trend to reject science. However, in this case, since this extra step in handling the raw meat doesn’t even rid it of bacteria… I really don’t comprehend the determination to follow old ideas.

You do it your way and I will do it mine. I will not cook my chicken with the juices it was packed in. No way. I also soak my chicken in a brine first.

[dooBdoo]

On 7/7/2014 scotttie said:

On 7/7/2014 dooBdoo said:

1 - washing/rinsing raw chicken doesn’t remove the dangerous bacteria<br /> 2 - washing/rinsing raw chicken <em>does</em> splatter tiny droplets in the surrounding area, including the clothing, the person’s face/arms, etc.<br /> 3 - no one can always know where the droplets went, so they can’t always apply bleach in all those areas<br /> 4 - and the raw chicken, meanwhile, still has the bacteria on it<br /> <br /> As I said before, I’ve talked about this with professionals at various hospitals, watched their presentations. A couple of my friends (the husband is the chief M.D. in the ER at our largest hospital, his wife is a scrub nurse there) are gourmet chefs, and they cringe at the old ideas about “washing” raw chicken. I’ll go with that, and with the recommendations of those wacky scientists and researchers at places like the CDC rather than the opinion pieces on various blogs.

I have no idea why anyone would do otherwise, but I do feel it’s a part of the odd trend to reject science. However, in this case, since this extra step in handling the raw meat doesn’t even rid it of bacteria… I really don’t comprehend the determination to follow old ideas.

Lumming's article was from the CDC.

Hi, Scottie! Actually it's an opinion piece on a coupon website. Someone's interpretation of what they read from sources like the CDC and others.