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[NoelSeven]

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@Jackaranda wrote:

I just can not wait for the day when no one is offended any more by any thing. I don't care what Target goes with toys as I can figure out on my own what to get.  We have big problems to solve but everyday is some story of someone be offended about something. I am just waiting for the day when some short wants to change the name of shortcake. We have become a nation of complainers.

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But you are complaining, so are all the rest who think Target is destroying gender identity.

The rest of us are happy with the change.

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 And many are not.

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Why are you angry about it?

[italia8140]

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@Jackaranda wrote:

I just can not wait for the day when no one is offended any more by any thing. I don't care what Target goes with toys as I can figure out on my own what to get.  We have big problems to solve but everyday is some story of someone be offended about something. I am just waiting for the day when some short wants to change the name of shortcake. We have become a nation of complainers.

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But you are complaining, so are all the rest who think Target is destroying gender identity.

The rest of us are happy with the change.

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 And many are not.

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Why are you angry about it?

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 Not angry. The issue is ridiculous and so unimportant. A parent who has nothing better to do complaining about a non issue.

[NoelSeven]

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@Jackaranda wrote:

I just can not wait for the day when no one is offended any more by any thing. I don't care what Target goes with toys as I can figure out on my own what to get.  We have big problems to solve but everyday is some story of someone be offended about something. I am just waiting for the day when some short wants to change the name of shortcake. We have become a nation of complainers.

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But you are complaining, so are all the rest who think Target is destroying gender identity.

The rest of us are happy with the change.

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 And many are not.

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Why are you angry about it?

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 Not angry. The issue is ridiculous and so unimportant. A parent who has nothing better to do complaining about a non issue.

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Target agreed it's an issue.  They aren't angry or worried.  There is no reason to be against it, it's a good thing, especially for little girls.

[suzyQ3]

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@Jackaranda wrote:

I just can not wait for the day when no one is offended any more by any thing. I don't care what Target goes with toys as I can figure out on my own what to get.  We have big problems to solve but everyday is some story of someone be offended about something. I am just waiting for the day when some short wants to change the name of shortcake. We have become a nation of complainers.

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But you are complaining, so are all the rest who think Target is destroying gender identity.

The rest of us are happy with the change.

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 And many are not.

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Why are you angry about it?

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 Not angry. The issue is ridiculous and so unimportant. A parent who has nothing better to do complaining about a non issue.

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Do you have children? Boys, girls, or both? If so, how do you deal with the issue of culturally mandated gender differences?

When we were raising our daughter, this was a pretty important issue.

[NoelSeven]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@italia8140 wrote:

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@Jackaranda wrote:

I just can not wait for the day when no one is offended any more by any thing. I don't care what Target goes with toys as I can figure out on my own what to get.  We have big problems to solve but everyday is some story of someone be offended about something. I am just waiting for the day when some short wants to change the name of shortcake. We have become a nation of complainers.

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But you are complaining, so are all the rest who think Target is destroying gender identity.

The rest of us are happy with the change.

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 And many are not.

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Why are you angry about it?

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 Not angry. The issue is ridiculous and so unimportant. A parent who has nothing better to do complaining about a non issue.

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Do you have children? Boys, girls, or both? If so, how do you deal with the issue of culturally mandated gender differences?

When we were raising our daughter, this was a pretty important issue.

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it was for us, too.  We sent our daughter to what was shockingly radical at the time, a camp of Science & Math For Girls led by women in the field.

[stevieb]

Sounds like much ado over not very much on both sides of this fairly specious argument...

[NoelSeven]

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@stevieb wrote:

Sounds like much ado over not very much on both sides of this fairly specious argument...

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No, much ado from one side only, and they are very angry over nothing.  Most are the same people who stand up for a store's right to make their own decision... but not in this case.

[Desertdi]

Their whole "remodeling" is kinda strange........they moved "furniture" up to the front of the store.............

[physicsnut]

Just another reason I choose NOT to spend my money at Target!!

[surfk]

Here is a rather interesting article about the gender-based toy issue.

It might be especially enlightening to those who think that all of this gender-bent labeling is somehow "traditional" or always has been the way.

Its actually more the result of aggressive advertising to children which was permitted after the FCC, in the 1980s, deregulated various restraints and limitations on such which had been in place earlier.

Since then, advertisers segmented children just as they had with the rest of the population in order to target narrower demographics.

Its not parents or kids or even social conservatives who ever much needed all of the current gender-labelling of toys.

It was an effect of mass marketing by advertisers. As they segmented children in society in order to target various sectors more easily, the advertisers and product makers rather needed to foster a more exaggerated sense of gender (than is truly desired or necessary in the scheme of human society).

Most leading experts are of the belief that all of this labeling and segmentation is indeed harmful to the development of our children.

Of course, who would listen to them when Mattel has toys to sell and is calling the shots?

In real terms, we've all been steered by "Mattel" et al moreso than common sense or reality.

To paraphrase some who like to castigate the liberals: If you adhere to such rigid gender labeling, you've been but sheeple - not to the government but instead to the toy companies & advertisers.

In fact, as the article states, PRIOR to the FCC deregulation of children's advertising, when society was in fact more gender-difference driven, the labeling was far, far, less.

So actually, this removal of all the artifice of labeling is a response to the consumers' demand to get the toy industry's (and retail's) priorities into a healthier and more normal place (when regarding toys).

In effect, its ironically a return to an earlier, simpler time when society didn't require and was not forced to confront all of this artificial, divisive labeling.

Making those who support the removal of gender-labeling signs - and Target - rather the conservatives in the whole scheme of things.

Ironically, enough.

From the Boston Globe:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2015/02/27/the-problem-with-separate-toys-for-girls-and-boys/2u...