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[Noel7]

We need do-overs for schools:

Bullet proof windows, a coat room in each classroom for backpacks, metal detectors and a direct line or button to alert the police to come.  And a safety door to the room, that's a little more complex...

[SahmIam]

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@Noel7wrote:

We need do-overs for schools:

Bullet proof windows, a coat room in each classroom for backpacks, metal detectors and a direct line or button to alert the police to come.  And a safety door to the room, that's a little more complex...

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Those things are already in place in our schools (not the the coatroom, however). As a new school is built, these features are built in; if a school is being brought to the 21st century, it's retrofitted with these things. Example:

Our middle school has you on camera as soon you come onto school property; doesn't matter where. All windows facing the front of the school are bulletproof; there are no windows in the back half other than the 2nd floor and they face the rear of the building. You come through doors and then must press a button to enter the front office (all on camera). You must scan your drivers license to come through that door once the buzzer sounds. Once in that office, you can not get into the school unless you have a badge and are escorted to your destination by a faculty member; otherwise, all students or faculty come to YOU in that office.

Metal detectors are in all schools via the front door. A cop comes twice a week to visit. In high school, there is a full time armed cop IN the school during school hours, including after school events. 

Been this way for some time. 

[Noel7]

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@SahmIamwrote:

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@Noel7wrote:

We need do-overs for schools:

Bullet proof windows, a coat room in each classroom for backpacks, metal detectors and a direct line or button to alert the police to come.  And a safety door to the room, that's a little more complex...

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Those things are already in place in our schools (not the the coatroom, however). As a new school is built, these features are built in; if a school is being brought to the 21st century, it's retrofitted with these things. Example:

Our middle school has you on camera as soon you come onto school property; doesn't matter where. All windows facing the front of the school are bulletproof; there are no windows in the back half other than the 2nd floor and they face the rear of the building. You come through doors and then must press a button to enter the front office (all on camera). You must scan your drivers license to come through that door once the buzzer sounds. Once in that office, you can not get into the school unless you have a badge and are escorted to your destination by a faculty member; otherwise, all students or faculty come to YOU in that office.

Metal detectors are in all schools via the front door. A cop comes twice a week to visit. In high school, there is a full time armed cop IN the school during school hours, including after school events. 

Been this way for some time. 

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That's good to hear, I don't think it's happening here, I'm going to ask around.

[SahmIam]

 @Noel7  I'm trying to remember when this type of security started and I'm thinking in the public schools it was around 2008/2009. My children went to a private preschool at our local Synagogue and that type of security was in place in 1998. When 911 hit, many of the Jewish places of worship, JC's and business were receiving bomb threats so the children arrived a school to SWAT teams in full gear and K-9's standing on guard in the playground with them as they played. It was....surreal.

Oddly, I think most private schools had such security due to high profile/wealthy families, etc. When our local public school made you scan your license, people went bonkers and the hate was real!! I understand the "Big Brother" thing and yet, we're talking those who can't protect themselves and should NOT have to be afraid other than forgetting their lunch money or homework, you know? From 2008 on, however, it's been done without any negative feedback at all.....I doubt most people are even AWARE of all the safety features in place at our schools. Being honest, our proximity to the city does play a part. Schools in other counties have all done the same thing as the years have gone by. Having the Murder Capital just miles away makes you think safety all the time. *heavy sigh*

[Noel7]

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@SahmIamwrote:

 @Noel7  I'm trying to remember when this type of security started and I'm thinking in the public schools it was around 2008/2009. My children went to a private preschool at our local Synagogue and that type of security was in place in 1998. When 911 hit, many of the Jewish places of worship, JC's and business were receiving bomb threats so the children arrived a school to SWAT teams in full gear and K-9's standing on guard in the playground with them as they played. It was....surreal.

Oddly, I think most private schools had such security due to high profile/wealthy families, etc. When our local public school made you scan your license, people went bonkers and the hate was real!! I understand the "Big Brother" thing and yet, we're talking those who can't protect themselves and should NOT have to be afraid other than forgetting their lunch money or homework, you know? From 2008 on, however, it's been done without any negative feedback at all.....I doubt most people are even AWARE of all the safety features in place at our schools. Being honest, our proximity to the city does play a part. Schools in other counties have all done the same thing as the years have gone by. Having the Murder Capital just miles away makes you think safety all the time. *heavy sigh*

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@SahmIam

There will always be people who gripe about being questioned or safety issues, I'm glad your community went ahead with the protections.

There aren't a lot of hate issues here, once in awhile when there's an LGBT parade, a few outsiders come to town and stir up trouble.

I think that's working against us, complacency.  The large Jewish community center has installed safety features, I don't know how extensive.  Several years ago, a Jewish temple not far from us received threats and a swastika.  The Palestinian community showed up for several nights to guard the temple.  I wonder if that could happen now?

[Cakers3]

These backpacks will not stop a bullet from an AR15.  These backpacks have been tested using 9mm Glocks, e.g., and worked sufficiently enough.

But in order to stop an AR15 or similiar weapon the plates used would weight that backpack down more than a young child could handle.

While I understand the fear parents have, some of these so-called bullet-proof backpacks are only selling quasi-safety.

[Noel7]

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@Cakers3wrote:

These backpacks will not stop a bullet from an AR15.  These backpacks have been tested using 9mm Glocks, e.g., and worked sufficiently enough.

But in order to stop an AR15 or similiar weapon the plates used would weight that backpack down more than a young child could handle.

While I understand the fear parents have, some of these so-called bullet-proof backpacks are only selling quasi-safety.

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Thank you for the info @Cakers3

[Noel7]

There's a video report on the channel below that shows various gunshot tests on one of the better backpacks.  I think I'd get one for a child even though it won't stop the assault weapon.  I can't link to the site but you should easily find it if you google this:

Bulletproof backpacks: They are real and being tested

WFTV9

[patbz]

Well I read this week that a lot of schools will be eliminating lockers (so where do backpacks etc go?).

[Lindsays Grandma]

In a way, as much as I don't particularly like being old, I am glad I am.  Why, you ask?  Because when I was a child my world was a safe world.  Yes, we were involved in a world war but that did not interfere with our daily lives.  We could walk to and from school, we could play outdoors, we as children were not in fear of anyone harming us.  Our parents never had to fear that someone would hurt their children.  Most people felt safe not locking their doors.  Lindsay is being home schooled which at first I was against, but am now happy she is.

I can't imagine children going to school everyday with fear in their hearts that some crazed individual is going to enter their school to kill them.  Children should not have to live with that.  It is time that the powers that be do something to make the lives of our children and their teachers a safer one.   It  just breaks my heart that innocent children who should be able to enter their school and feel safe are now having to wear or carry bullet proof articles.  So sad.