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[suzyQ3]

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@KKJ wrote:

Just curious about this---are the protesters required to wear masks in these big cities?  I've just seen brief images on the news and what I've seen it looks like most do, but are they required to?   Just wondering.

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@KKJ, from what I understand, both protests and religious gatherings are protected to some extent by the First Amendment. But of course both masks and physical distincing are highly recommended.

From hat I have seen, many of the protesters do wear masks, probably similar percentage to those at large, Keep in mind that there are counties that have been "forced" to rescind their mask orders because of outcries from those who contend that it is a freedom issue.

I wish all people would wear them when near others, period. But it's not going to happen.

[HerRoyaLioness]

Even though it is slowly opening, our state continues to have an overall increase of at least 200+ per day.  We hit a record a couple weeks ago of over 700. 

One of my friends commented, oh the number is doing down, it's getting better!  Yes, from 300 to 200 a day, so I guess her actual words are true!

I'm high risk and still practicing safer at home protocol.  It's worse now than it ever was, and with some people not doing social distancing and mask wearing, it's bound to keep increasing.

Not panicking, just looking at the numbers, and am aware of variables like more testing, but I think that is balanced out by many who have it, or have had it, that never went in for testing, especially in the beginning.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@on the bay wrote:

@CrazyDaisy -

I agree about the not living in constant fear. I do think we each have to find ways to stay safe in this very weird and unpredictable worldwide contageous pandemic, not be in constant state of fear, and find new ways to enjoy our lives and stay safe at the same time.

I give myself a few minutes to worry and then try to turn it off. Because yes I too think we have to keep living the best we can.

It is encouraging to see the many ways people are trying to do this, even though it can be hard for sure, especially those with children of all different ages, and working and schooling at home, first responders, small business, etc.and of course those who have sadly experienced death to those close to them.

We all seem to have so many different circumstances that affect each of us so differently and depending where we live as well.

I truly think it is good to try to be empathetic towards so many with vastly different experiences.

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People need to find something that brings them joy, then figure out a way to do it safely during this time.  Myself, I am going to a dog agility trial this weekend.  I am comfortable with the precautios in place and looking forward to seeing some friends after all this time.

[mom2four0418]

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@MorningLover wrote:

NYC is instructing contact tracers to not ask people if they joined protests/riots because they don’t want any stats/evidence proving protests led to a corona spike. Much easier for them to blame biz owners and church goers.

This is fake news.

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[noodleann]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@noodleann wrote:

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@MorningLover wrote:

NYC is instructing contact tracers to not ask people if they joined protests/riots because they don’t want any stats/evidence proving protests led to a corona spike. Much easier for them to blame biz owners and church goers.

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That appears to be your personal conclusion. 

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@noodleann  It is not her personal conclusion.

Mark Levine has stated as such-that the protesters would not be causing any spikes.  He is the head of NYC's health committee.

It is foolish to hire 1000 tracers but leave out a population who had such close contact.

While Cuomo is asking for people to be tested, DeBlasio feels tracing any protestor who tests positive is not needed.

The articles are out there for everyone to read.

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Show us where Levine or de Blasio stated what she's alleging. Direct quotes, not the divinations of third-rate opinion writers. I can get that here. Heck, I AM getting that here.

Mark Levine is a politician. He's a member of the NYC City Council and chair of the council's health committee. That's a committee run by the city council, not "NYC's health committee," LOL.

Pray tell how exactly you "trace" strangers? That's the problem with tracing contacts at protests. People are largely side by side with strangers. It doesn't make sense to waste resources on an impossible task. We're already doing that with testing, by using faulty tests. It's a festival of unreliability, a real whoop-de-doo of false negatives and invalid stats. 

It'll be a hoot if it's the minimizers who are disappointed if there's not a surge in cases in areas with lots of protests, after they said that of people like me when the openings started. 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Porcelain wrote:

@Anonymous032819Who is having meltdowns and panicking? I'm just not seeing that. If you're referring to your fellow posters, that seems like an attempt to mock or insult them.

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@Porcelain 

@Anonymous032819  seems to be in constant hyperbole mode.

It's pretty ridiculous as well as inaccurate.

[hckynut]

@gardenman 

I can't remember ever being confused by 1 of your posts, this 1 did just that. You mention April, 2002, along with more positives than the number tested, and the same with April 2, 2020, am I missing something here?

Reading your post, to me, makes it more complicated than it really needs to be and harder to understand, for me anywho.

For me it can be much simpler math, and why is it they don't put more emphasis on the "negative number tested", and the lead seems to be solely on the "positive"numbers.

Maybe it's because I have always been a "glass half full " optimist and prefer looking at the best scenario as opposed to worse/worser or worst. Positive numbers, in my view, accentuate more towards the negative.

Now if my use of the words "positive/negative" used in different contexts is confusing? I understand why, but maybe my vocabulary is more limited than I thought. 

I know from reading so many of your posts, you definitely a more analytical guy than me. In most aspects of my life I am the same.

As I said previously, tell us the number of those tested along with negative numbers, since those numbers have to statistically be much, much higher. Media likes to use platforms more for the pessimistic view than an optimistic one.

You lost me with 2002 and more "positive" results that the number tested. Help me understand, eh?

Yes, I know a couple of these words grammatically do not exist.

hckynut 🏒

[tansy]

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@deepwaterdotter wrote:

I am keeping my hopes up for a vaccine so that my state can move into phase 4.

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And how long would you delay getting a vaccine?  I'm worried about corners being cut:/

[suzyQ3]

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@noodleann wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@noodleann wrote:

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@MorningLover wrote:

NYC is instructing contact tracers to not ask people if they joined protests/riots because they don’t want any stats/evidence proving protests led to a corona spike. Much easier for them to blame biz owners and church goers.

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That appears to be your personal conclusion. 

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@noodleann  It is not her personal conclusion.

Mark Levine has stated as such-that the protesters would not be causing any spikes.  He is the head of NYC's health committee.

It is foolish to hire 1000 tracers but leave out a population who had such close contact.

While Cuomo is asking for people to be tested, DeBlasio feels tracing any protestor who tests positive is not needed.

The articles are out there for everyone to read.

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Show us where Levine or de Blasio stated what she's alleging. Direct quotes, not the divinations of third-rate opinion writers. I can get that here. Heck, I AM getting that here.

Mark Levine is a politician. He's a member of the NYC City Council and chair of the council's health committee. That's a committee run by the city council, not "NYC's health committee," LOL.

Pray tell how exactly you "trace" strangers? That's the problem with tracing contacts at protests. People are largely side by side with strangers. It doesn't make sense to waste resources on an impossible task. We're already doing that with testing, by using faulty tests. It's a festival of unreliability, a real whoop-de-doo of false negatives and invalid stats. 

It'll be a hoot if it's the minimizers who are disappointed if there's not a surge in cases in areas with lots of protests, after they said that of people like me when the openings started. 

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@noodleann, I'm trying to parse your last paragraph. It's not your fault. This issue has become so convoluted because it's all very political.

What I'm getting from this dubious report is the accusation that some pols want to avoid suggesting that the spikes were caused by protests because that would not be "politically correct).

How we have arrived at this point is almost unfathomable.

[Lali1]

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@Porcelain wrote:

@Anonymous032819Who is having meltdowns and panicking? I'm just not seeing that. If you're referring to your fellow posters, that seems like an attempt to mock or insult them.

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Daily people post about how angry and upset they are at seeing people not wearing masks. Daily.