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Re: Social Security Headache

I should add to my post. we went over to son/daughter in law's house las night. their son (grandson) graduated from high school (all he recieved is a piece of paper saying he went to high school never graduating) he just attended high school I am not sure if he even went to the basic classes but I know he did attend high school..he did get a job this summer thru the special classes program they have in the state where we live. he put down wood chips around base of trees in the parks. all he can do is super repetative jobs, don't switch anything up.

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Re: Social Security Headache

Some of the Posters don't seem to realize what @katie1859  is talking about. She does not need a lawyer.  Her son is getting some sort of SS. He worked and where he worked reported his earnings to IRS.

 

In the mean time while he was working SS was paying him the full amount of his monthly payment. Once they received notice from the IRS and the amount he was paid for working, there would of course be an overpayment on SS side. SS wants it back.

 

What they will do is deduct a certain amount monthly from his SS payments until the amount is paid. This is something that happens often.

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Re: Social Security Headache


@Sage04 wrote:

Some of the Posters don't seem to realize what @katie1859  is talking about. She does not need a lawyer.  Her son is getting some sort of SS. He worked and where he worked reported his earnings to IRS.

 

In the mean time while he was working SS was paying him the full amount of his monthly payment. Once they received notice from the IRS and the amount he was paid for working, there would of course be an overpayment on SS side. SS wants it back.

 

What they will do is deduct a certain amount monthly from his SS payments until the amount is paid. This is something that happens often.


Social Security can go into your account and take an over payment. The agency can be nice and give a person a payment plan.
Most people know the rules.

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Re: Social Security Headache

If you are the payee or for fiduciary for someone on SS, you have a lot of paperwork to fill out and then paperwork to account for how much was spent on clothing, personal items, entertainment, etc. etc. as well as housing costs.  VA benefits?  It's even more paperwork than SSI.

 

And getting benefits started can be a real struggle too if you are the representative--or are having to become one.  IF YOU HAVE ANYONE you might wind up taking care of their affairs with any government agency, get named and verified by them BEFORE they are unable to name you.  

 

 

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@Nuttmeg wrote:

@Sage04 wrote:

Some of the Posters don't seem to realize what @katie1859  is talking about. She does not need a lawyer.  Her son is getting some sort of SS. He worked and where he worked reported his earnings to IRS.

 

In the mean time while he was working SS was paying him the full amount of his monthly payment. Once they received notice from the IRS and the amount he was paid for working, there would of course be an overpayment on SS side. SS wants it back.

 

What they will do is deduct a certain amount monthly from his SS payments until the amount is paid. This is something that happens often.


Social Security can go into your account and take an over payment. The agency can be nice and give a person a payment plan.
Most people know the rules.

 

 

@Nuttmeg  yes SS takes the same amount monthly from your monthly payment until it's paid off. They make sure that the payee still has enough monthly.

 

Yes it could be called a payment plan that comes directly from the monthly payments but SS makes that decision.

 

I don't know why @katie1859  is so upset about this. It's not as if the overpayment has to be done in a lumpsome.


 

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Re: Social Security Headache

Haven't been in your shoes, so not sure what you're referring to.  

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This poster seems to write confusing texts and then disappear. I will add my two cents in the event that she comes back and reads the responses. 

 

I worked for Social Security for 12 years in the 70s and 80s. She has the right to file an appeal on the decision. If it is found that  the overpayment was not her fault  AND she is unable to repay it the overpayment may be waived.

 

If she is found to be at fault then a manageable repayment plan will be worked out. 

 

There is a  limited time in which to file an appeal. She does not need an attorney to represent her. If she is out of the appeals period, SSA may begin to withhold funds as described in the letter that she received. 

 

It is very complicated. There are different rules for SSI and SSDI. She needs to go to Social Security so she can fully understand the situation and use her appeal rights. 

 

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@turtle52 wrote:

This poster seems to write confusing texts and then disappear. I will add my two cents in the event that she comes back and reads the responses. 

 

I worked for Social Security for 12 years in the 70s and 80s. She has the right to file an appeal on the decision. If it is found that  the overpayment was not her fault  AND she is unable to repay it the overpayment may be waived.

 

If she is found to be at fault then a manageable repayment plan will be worked out. 

 

There is a  limited time in which to file an appeal. She does not need an attorney to represent her. If she is out of the appeals period, SSA may begin to withhold funds as described in the letter that she received. 

 

It is very complicated. There are different rules for SSI and SSDI. She needs to go to Social Security so she can fully understand the situation and use her appeal rights. 

 


@turtle52  you are so right about the confusing Threads. I like her though. She makes us try to figure out what she means lol. She started a Thread about a dress for a wedding. I think it's her daughter that's getting married but don't know for sure.

 

I'm surprise that she didn't know that her son was double dipping. I guess some people don't know.

 

@turtle52  the overpayment comes from her son's monthly payments. A deduction every month until it's paid off. I guess things have changed since you worked there.

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Dealing with the SSA is a nightmare for almost everyone I know who has had the misfortune of having to deal with them personally. 

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Sage04 you AWAYS have appeal rights on any decision that SSA makes. That has not changed. If you ignore the letter SSA will recoup but if you file an appeal you MAY win. I aways advised the people that I interviewed to file appeals if they disagreed with an unfavorable decision.