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01-11-2017 10:48 AM
@software I'm in the SERS retirement system (Ohio), but I think the rules are similar in some respects to SS. If you decide to retire before full retirement age (66), and take the reduced monthly benefit, I don't believe you can later switch to the higher benefit amount when you turn 66. I'm pretty sure you're stuck with the same early retirement benefit forever (not considering any of your spousal benefit).
01-11-2017 10:55 AM
I agree with you on the early retirement.
Not sure if it would be the same with the spousal benefit.
I need to study the website more and check out the links others have provided.
I don't want any surprises when I go to the office.
I'd retire today if I had affordable insurance!
@2blonde wrote:@software I'm in the SERS retirement system (Ohio), but I think the rules are similar in some respects to SS. If you decide to retire before full retirement age (66), and take the reduced monthly benefit, I don't believe you can later switch to the higher benefit amount when you turn 66. I'm pretty sure you're stuck with the same early retirement benefit forever (not considering any of your spousal benefit).
01-11-2017 10:56 AM - edited 01-11-2017 11:06 AM
@software wrote:Thanks for the clarification.
@shell garden wrote:Sorry, I misspoke! Went back and looked at my paperwork when talking to SS office!
At at 62, I decided not to wait and start taking my SS benefits even though I have a nice substantial retirement from my job.
I could take my ex-s SS benefits but, it only be 1/2 of his and my benefits alone was more than 1/2 of his....So I took mine! If and when he passes, I can then go back and claim his, 100%.....Which will be about $ 500 more a month than what I get right now! He is over 70 and waited until 70 to get his and he is still working!
I don't believe you would get 100% of your ex's benefit, if he dies before you, shell, like his widow would.
ETA: Looks like you would receive 100% of a widow's benefit. Wow.
01-11-2017 10:58 AM
@software wrote:I am working but I don't like it. I've developed a couple of health issues and my job is demanding, I put in 11 hour days. I should be grateful, and I am, but this old body is not what it used to be!
If I wait until full retirement age, 4/1/2019, I can receive about $200 per month more than if I retire at 65 in 2018. That extra $200 would go a long way, probably toward health care of some kind. I do not have a pension, SS would be my only income, other than savings & other assets.
But if I can file on my ex-husband's SS# when I file for Medicare, I'd like to do that if his benefit is higher than mine. And if my benefit is higher at age 66, I'd like to file on mine and drop his.
I'm not worried about SS for folks at my age, and I don't want to get into any kind of political debate about it. This has been discussed for the past 20 years and no one has done anything about it.
@shell gardengarden
@software....I am so deeply sorry that you and alot of senior citizens do not have a retirement to rely on in this day and age and only have present work and/ or SS benefits to thrive on!
I have been very, very blessed with a medical college job that did offer excellent retirement! My mother instilled in us kids to find, like she did in the 60' S when she began working in the health care field, to be sure and invest in somewhere with excellent benefits, no matter what the pay at the beginning! I followed in her footsteps as well as my sister did and we have been blessed!
I just could not or want to work now, and I applaud you and others who continue to do so whatever the reason!
You need to talk to someone at SS office and then decide what is best for you! But, regardless if you take it now or at 66, you would only get 1/2 of your ex's SS benefits! If you took yours now, you would get 100% of yours. Then if and when he passes, you can go back and claim his 100%.
@So, for example...If his benefits are $1200 a month, you would only get $600 @ 50%. But, if yours was around $1000 a month, and you took yours now, then you would get all of yours now! Then when he passes, you go back and claim his and start getting his at 100%, which would be $1200 a month!
I claimed mine because it was higher than 1/2 of my ex's! When he passes, I can claim all of his,xwhich will be higher! But, even though he is 10 years older than I am, what if I pass before him? Zilch....Both are gone! I am collecting now whatever and how many years left is into savings untouched passed on to my family!
Best of luck in what you decide! But dpfind out how much you would get from SS on your 100% benefits now and see if you can live on that, quit your grueling job and start taking your benefits! If you can't, and have to keep working for another year or two.....We will all be here rooting you on and hugging and praying with you!
01-11-2017 11:00 AM
@saltysails wrote:So, if the spouse takes SS at 62 through her husband's SS, wouldn't she get less than half since she is taking it early? Also if she takes it early and out lives her husband, can she take his at 100% at his death, even though she took SS early or will it also be reduced?
Yes, the wife gets less than half if she takes the benefit before full retirement age. Yes, at this time, if she outlives the husband, she receives his full benefit.
01-11-2017 11:07 AM
@tansy wrote:
@saltysails wrote:So, if the spouse takes SS at 62 through her husband's SS, wouldn't she get less than half since she is taking it early? Also if she takes it early and out lives her husband, can she take his at 100% at his death, even though she took SS early or will it also be reduced?
Yes, the wife gets less than half if she takes the benefit before full retirement age. Yes, at this time, if she outlives the husband, she receives his full benefit.
EXACTLY, TANSY! That is what the SS said to me! I received my own benefits 2 years ago at age 62....When and if my ex passes before me, I will go back and claim 100% of his!
If this is not true, then that SS REP LIED TO ME, lol! 😄 Whatever, I am blessed, I am grateful and I am happy!
01-11-2017 11:12 AM - edited 01-11-2017 11:13 AM
@shell garden wrote:
@tansy wrote:
@saltysails wrote:So, if the spouse takes SS at 62 through her husband's SS, wouldn't she get less than half since she is taking it early? Also if she takes it early and out lives her husband, can she take his at 100% at his death, even though she took SS early or will it also be reduced?
Yes, the wife gets less than half if she takes the benefit before full retirement age. Yes, at this time, if she outlives the husband, she receives his full benefit.
EXACTLY, TANSY! That is what the SS said to me! I received my own benefits 2 years ago at age 62....When and if my ex passes before me, I will go back and claim 100% of his!
If this is not true, then that SS REP LIED TO ME, lol! 😄 Whatever, I am blessed, I am grateful and I am happy!
I'm happy for you, shell but I am surprised that an ex-spouse collects the ex's full benefit when he dies. A person can be married to a lot of people for ten years!!
01-11-2017 11:29 AM - edited 01-11-2017 11:37 AM
@tansy wrote:
@shell garden wrote:
@tansy wrote:
@saltysails wrote:So, if the spouse takes SS at 62 through her husband's SS, wouldn't she get less than half since she is taking it early? Also if she takes it early and out lives her husband, can she take his at 100% at his death, even though she took SS early or will it also be reduced?
Yes, the wife gets less than half if she takes the benefit before full retirement age. Yes, at this time, if she outlives the husband, she receives his full benefit.
EXACTLY, TANSY! That is what the SS said to me! I received my own benefits 2 years ago at age 62....When and if my ex passes before me, I will go back and claim 100% of his!
If this is not true, then that SS REP LIED TO ME, lol! 😄 Whatever, I am blessed, I am grateful and I am happy!
I'm happy for you, shell but I am surprised that an ex-spouse collects the ex's full benefit when he dies. A person can be married to a lot of people for ten years!!
LOL, TANSY....2 things.....
1)....you can not have remarried unless you were over 62! If, you remarried before age 62, you lose the ex's benefits!
2)... If you did wait until after you were 62, you would still have to wait and be married 10 years from each marriage to claim the benefits from an ex...We may not have that many years left to invest, lol! Besides, you can only claim one, not ALL ex spouses! HEY...I ain't Zsa Zsa or Taylor, lol!
01-11-2017 12:07 PM
wow, you sure got some crazy advice on here.
if you wait until full retirement age, you can collect on your benefit. You also can collect an additional payment under your x's SS if you were married at least 10 years if he is SS too.
The additional amount can only be collected up to 1/2 of what your x's SS benefits are.
Example: Your x collects $2500 a month SS and
you collect $1000 on your SS.
SS will pay you $1000 first
Then an additional $250 under your x's SS for a total of $1250
$1250 is half of your x's SS of $2500 a month.
if your SS payment is more than half of your x's SS, you will only collect yours.
At one time, you could collect on your x's SS first, then when you reach full retirement, change over to collect yours. I am not sure you can still do this. Call SS and ask. The SS rules have been changing.
I'd call ASAP and ask if you want to retire now. You have nothing to lose.
01-11-2017 12:10 PM
@shell garden wrote:
@tansy wrote:
@shell garden wrote:
@tansy wrote:
@saltysails wrote:So, if the spouse takes SS at 62 through her husband's SS, wouldn't she get less than half since she is taking it early? Also if she takes it early and out lives her husband, can she take his at 100% at his death, even though she took SS early or will it also be reduced?
Yes, the wife gets less than half if she takes the benefit before full retirement age. Yes, at this time, if she outlives the husband, she receives his full benefit.
EXACTLY, TANSY! That is what the SS said to me! I received my own benefits 2 years ago at age 62....When and if my ex passes before me, I will go back and claim 100% of his!
If this is not true, then that SS REP LIED TO ME, lol! 😄 Whatever, I am blessed, I am grateful and I am happy!
I'm happy for you, shell but I am surprised that an ex-spouse collects the ex's full benefit when he dies. A person can be married to a lot of people for ten years!!
LOL, TANSY....2 things.....
1)....you can not have remarried unless you were over 62! If, you remarried before age 62, you lose the ex's benefits!
2)... If you did wait until after you were 62, you would still have to wait and be married 10 years from each marriage to claim the benefits from an ex...We may not have that many years left to invest, lol! Besides, you can only claim one, not ALL ex spouses! HEY...I ain't Zsa Zsa or Taylor, lol!
@tansy - And now you see why the system is going broke! Multiple people collecting on one person's earnings. And it's not just with the divorce benefits.
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