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01-10-2018 07:36 PM
@onionsoup wrote:
@SusieQ_2 wrote:From what I understand the mudslides were in an area further south that was not under mandatory evacuation orders and not even in the direct area of the Thomas fire burn zone. It was the flooded Montecito creek that sent the deadly mud and boulders flooding into the neighborhood. I've just heard a bit about it on local talk radio shows so I hope my information is correct.
From what I understand there were both mandatory and voluntary evacuation orders. @SusieQ_2
My understanding was that there were mandatory orders in areas where no mudslides occurred and only voluntary orders in the neighborhood where they did. Of course, as I said, I'm not really 100% sure. So you would be right, @puttypiesmom, there were some areas with mandatory orders and some with voluntary. Either way, it's a done deal now and so many people are left homeless and heartbroken. I can't imagine how people move on after such tragedy, but then again, there's not much alternative. It's so sad.
01-10-2018 07:41 PM
In the short time I lived in California I said it was a beautiful state but they had natural disaster after natural disaster -- in other words, it is always something. I feel sorry for the people affected by the fires and now the mud slides. Your life is important than a house - get out while you can.
01-10-2018 07:52 PM
@SusieQ_2yes the homeless and the heartbroken, you said it perfectly.
I don't know how anyone comes back from that.
01-10-2018 07:59 PM
The mudslide situation reminds me of what happened here in a canyon in the mountains not far from me. There was a large fire that wiped out an entire section along a mountain pass. When the rains came the water just ran off the sides of all the slopes then funneled down all the ravines carrying tons of debris and mud. Cars were swept off the road and chunks of the mountainside blocked the road. The mud continued downhill and destroyed parts of a small mountain-side town. The city had to restructure that entire road and all the slopes surrounding it. Erosion control measures were taken but every time it rained, that section of road was shut down because of flooding...and I mean really bad flooding...nothing like I have ever seen here before.
I pray that the California mudslide victims will be able to recover from this horrible tragedy.
01-10-2018 09:28 PM
I saw the story about the baby on the local news (I'm in OC) and wondered also. No other mention that we've seen. Too afraid to google. ![]()
I also heard that home insurers are telling homeowners they are on their own. Isn't that something?
Thoughts and prayers for those still missing, not sure how many people are unaccounted for---didn't watch any news tonight.
Thankfully the sun was shining once again today.
I've met some of the nicest people in California---they are as beautiful as the state itself.
01-10-2018 09:38 PM
I don't know if anyone around here remembers Love Creek mudslides. What a horror, just like Monticeito, but a little worse. I think it was in the early 1980's, when it used to rain. That winter, it rained and rained. Omg, I lived a few miles from Love Creek ( which is near Boulder Creek, near Santa Cruz) and the rain just poured, everyday, all day,all night. I was getting ready to build an Ark!!!
for all the disasters California has, I would never leave. Never. We have had a chance when my husband was working...but couldnt do it. For some states it is to humid, the pay is lower, or they have natural disasters too. Tornados, hurrricanes, floods. Every state has something . I guess, being a native Californian going back to before CA was a state...it is in my blood. I love the people, the diversity, and the environmental concerns and preservation. It is expensive, but I love it
01-10-2018 10:11 PM
@Lucky Charm wrote:I saw the story about the baby on the local news (I'm in OC) and wondered also. No other mention that we've seen. Too afraid to google.
I also heard that home insurers are telling homeowners they are on their own. Isn't that something?
Thoughts and prayers for those still missing, not sure how many people are unaccounted for---didn't watch any news tonight.
Thankfully the sun was shining once again today.
I've met some of the nicest people in California---they are as beautiful as the state itself.
@Lucky CharmYes, that is really something. Unless someone is very wealthy how do they rebuild? I guess they would not want to rebuild exactly there but somewhere else in Ca.
01-10-2018 10:28 PM
@onionsoup wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:I saw the story about the baby on the local news (I'm in OC) and wondered also. No other mention that we've seen. Too afraid to google.
I also heard that home insurers are telling homeowners they are on their own. Isn't that something?
Thoughts and prayers for those still missing, not sure how many people are unaccounted for---didn't watch any news tonight.
Thankfully the sun was shining once again today.
I've met some of the nicest people in California---they are as beautiful as the state itself.
@Lucky CharmYes, that is really something. Unless someone is very wealthy how do they rebuild? I guess they would not want to rebuild exactly there but somewhere else in Ca.
Actually, I didn't hear the actual story, it was sort of a lead in (after a commercial break).
So maybe they were saying that it was something insurers were considering moving forward. Or it was something that is already in force. May vary policy to policy or ins. company to company.
01-10-2018 10:51 PM
Just a quick check in.
We here in Santa Barbara and Montecito, are in shock. It is just devastating. We are all connected in some way or another to the people who have been directly affected.
First the terrifying fire that threatened our whole town, and forced the closure of businesses during the holidays. many went out of business including my son's place of business.
We were trying to put all the pieces back together and rest a bit when this happened.
It is horrifying to watch the news and hear the names of people you knew that were victims.
We knew the storm was coming and we knew it could be bad. The evacuation line was way up on the hill. No one expected cars and houses to be washed two miles down to the ocean.
The freeway that runs the length of the state, and is the artery to our town is buried in mud, cars and debris. They are saying they hope to have it passable by monday. In the meantime emergency employees such as first responders and hospital workers are being brought to town from ventura by boat.
It is a nightmare, and will take quite a while for the horror to subside.
Right now, money, property values, insurance etc are the furthest things from our minds.
Our home, thank God, was three miles from the slide, and was spared.
xoxo,henny
01-10-2018 11:02 PM - edited 01-10-2018 11:04 PM
@hennypenny wrote:Just a quick check in.
We here in Santa Barbara and Montecito, are in shock. It is just devastating. We are all connected in some way or another to the people who have been directly affected.
First the terrifying fire that threatened our whole town, and forced the closure of businesses during the holidays. many went out of business including my son's place of business.
We were trying to put all the pieces back together and rest a bit when this happened.
It is horrifying to watch the news and hear the names of people you knew that were victims.
We knew the storm was coming and we knew it could be bad. The evacuation line was way up on the hill. No one expected cars and houses to be washed two miles down to the ocean.
The freeway that runs the length of the state, and is the artery to our town is buried in mud, cars and debris. They are saying they hope to have it passable by monday. In the meantime emergency employees such as first responders and hospital workers are being brought to town from ventura by boat.
It is a nightmare, and will take quite a while for the horror to subside.
Right now, money, property values, insurance etc are the furthest things from our minds.
Our home, thank God, was three miles from the slide, and was spared.
xoxo,henny
Thank you for posting. So sorry to hear about all the businesses that went under and all the other things everyone is faced with. @hennypenny Thank goodness your home was spared. I saw the pictures of the freeway and just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
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