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[suzyQ3]

I'm a bit lost as to how we got to diabetes, but I can sort of figure it out.

Of course there are those who are not overweight who develop Type2 and thin people who do. But that doesn't discount that the fact that being overweight is a factor for becoming a Type2 diabetic. I'm not sure what's wrong with saying this, and I don't see it as stereotyping.

My husband was recently diagnosed with pre-diabetes. The advice from the specialist was to alter his diet, lose weight, and exercise. He is doing all three and feeling better than ever. His blood pressure has dropped so much that is now off those meds, and his cholesterol level is much lower as well.

[Noel7]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

I'm a bit lost as to how we got to diabetes, but I can sort of figure it out.

Of course there are those who are not overweight who develop Type2 and thin people who do. But that doesn't discount that the fact that being overweight is a factor for becoming a Type2 diabetic. I'm not sure what's wrong with saying this, and I don't see it as stereotyping.

My husband was recently diagnosed with pre-diabetes. The advice from the specialist was to alter his diet, lose weight, and exercise. He is doing all three and feeling better than ever. His blood pressure has dropped so much that is now off those meds, and his cholesterol level is much lower as well.

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@suzyQ3 It spoke to the possibility of a genetic component.  

There are also thought to be triggers for diabetes, and thought one trigger might be a virus.

[suzyQ3]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

I'm a bit lost as to how we got to diabetes, but I can sort of figure it out.

Of course there are those who are not overweight who develop Type2 and thin people who do. But that doesn't discount that the fact that being overweight is a factor for becoming a Type2 diabetic. I'm not sure what's wrong with saying this, and I don't see it as stereotyping.

My husband was recently diagnosed with pre-diabetes. The advice from the specialist was to alter his diet, lose weight, and exercise. He is doing all three and feeling better than ever. His blood pressure has dropped so much that is now off those meds, and his cholesterol level is much lower as well.

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@suzyQ3 It spoke to the possibility of a genetic component.  

There are also thought to be triggers for diabetes, and thought one trigger might be a virus.

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@Noel7, maybe, maybe. I wouldn't be surprised. But that doesn't change the fact that being very overweight is one risk factor. I've never seen that disputed by professionals in the field. And by all accounts, people with diabetes who lose weight often see a reduction in symptoms. 

[Moonchilde]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

I'm a bit lost as to how we got to diabetes, but I can sort of figure it out.

Of course there are those who are not overweight who develop Type2 and thin people who do. But that doesn't discount that the fact that being overweight is a factor for becoming a Type2 diabetic.

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It is, indeed, a factor. But too many believe it's the single and only factor, and that the only reason a person could possibly be overweight is because they (obviously) over-eat.

We "got here" because people have posted (paraphrasing) why just pick on smokers? Why not pick on the overweight - their over-eating gives them diabetes. They do it to themselves just like smokers do.

There are people in the thread who wanted to set the record straight as to the facts of diabetes. Not that being overweight may not/doesn't contribute to diabetes, but that being overweight is not caused only by over-eating, and that diabetes is not caused only by being overweight.

[Moonchilde]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

I'm a bit lost as to how we got to diabetes, but I can sort of figure it out.

Of course there are those who are not overweight who develop Type2 and thin people who do. But that doesn't discount that the fact that being overweight is a factor for becoming a Type2 diabetic. I'm not sure what's wrong with saying this, and I don't see it as stereotyping.

My husband was recently diagnosed with pre-diabetes. The advice from the specialist was to alter his diet, lose weight, and exercise. He is doing all three and feeling better than ever. His blood pressure has dropped so much that is now off those meds, and his cholesterol level is much lower as well.

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@suzyQ3 It spoke to the possibility of a genetic component.  

There are also thought to be triggers for diabetes, and thought one trigger might be a virus.

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@Noel7, maybe, maybe. I wouldn't be surprised. But that doesn't change the fact that being very overweight is one risk factor. I've never seen that disputed by professionals in the field. And by all accounts, people with diabetes who lose weight often see a reduction in symptoms. 

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And some do not. I don't disagree with "often", especially if a person is pre-diabetic. But it's not universal, and people who have the disease get tired of the "lose weight and you won't have diabetes any more" thing that you get all the time.

When I was diagnosed, I lost close to 70 lbs (and no, I was not 400 lbs to start with). After losing that weight, it affected my diabetes not at all, NOR my blood pressure; neither improved. I'm not the only one where this is the case.

For the past 6 months, until a month ago, I ate one meal a day. This had nothing to do with dieting, it was a series of medical issues. I have lost a grand total of only 20 lbs - not very much, considering.

I just get d*m*ed tired of the fat shaming based on the "truth" that every overweight person eats like a pig and gave themselves diabetes, and if they'd just stop stuffing themselves they wouldn't have diabetes, it would all go buh-byee.

[suzyQ3]

@Moonchilde, I understand that this is an issue that really p***** you off. I have some issues like that, too.

[occasionalrain]

My father smoked as did my grandfather so I like the smell of cigarette smoke because it reminds me of them.

I don't mind people smoking in my home or car. I would never expect a guest to go outside to smoke anymore than I would ask them to remove their shoes, or shove coasters under their drink. My home is meant for living, it can be cleaned, anything damaged can be replaced.

Smoking is a health risk and so is the food most people eat. Living is risky if you wish to enjoy it. Some people enjoy Big Macs, some enjoy smoking and, for them, it's worth the risk. No matter what we do or avoid, tomorow is promised to no one; no one lives forever.

[Moonchilde]

@suzyQ3, just to clarify - I don't think you were saying any of that, just that it was in the thread by insinuation and I see it all over the forums (as well as elsewhere).