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‎08-27-2021 08:28 PM
I think it is fine that he be paroled. He is not a threat.
‎08-27-2021 08:29 PM
@Sushismom wrote:IF he shows remorse for what he's done, I think it's time for him to be paroled. Some people do change. Whether or not he's one, I can't say as I haven't spoken to him.
"Showing remorse" is not equivalent to actually having remorse. Though he may very well have remorse. What does remorse look like anyway @Sushismom ?
‎08-27-2021 08:34 PM
He not only murdered RFK in cold blood (shot once in the head and twice in the back), he also wounded five innocent bystanders, including a teenager.
Life should mean life, no matter who the victim is, for a pre-meditated crime like this. (If California law hadn't been changed after this occurred, he would've faced the death penalty.)
The reason RFK's sons supported his parole is their belief that it was a second gunman who shot their father. Well, sorry, it's all there on film. If they can't see what's in front of them, there are plenty of others who can; who remember that day captured live on tv. And he admitted his guilt - but I guess that's not enough?
I hope at the very least he will be deported. He is not an American citizen.
‎08-27-2021 08:40 PM - edited ‎08-27-2021 08:51 PM
1968
What a pivotal and ugly year for the United States. When Robert Kennedy was assassinated a couple months after Martin Luther King, Jr., many were overwhelmed by the anarchical murders that had hit our nation.
For me, Sirhan Sirhan is in the same category as Charles Manson. Two killers who upset life as we knew it. (I remember that the "Tate" murders occurred in 1969, but they were, sadly, part of this insane new cycle.)
It might be unfair that I lump Sirhan with Manson; Sirhan may have changed for the better unlike crazy Charley. I suppose I did not consider that I'd ever have to give another thought to Sirhan again.
ETA: Parole was never a consideration for the assassin of King, James Earl Ray.
‎08-27-2021 08:40 PM
@september wrote:A big deal is made out of prisoners asking for parole who were involved in notable crimes, but every day, others get paroled with no public opposition or notice at all.
a great many were released from prison early, due to covid. A good number of those have already committed other crimes, too. A double murder, close to where I live.
Agree. Several of us earlier suggested the notoriety of this case makes it stand out and that many have been released serving far less time.
‎08-27-2021 08:47 PM
I was in third grade when RFK was assassinated, I remember how devastated my mother and other adults were at the time. It was only two months after the murder of MLK and not quite five years of President Kennedy.
Sirhan Sirhan needs to spend the rest of his life in prison for first-degree murder. I understand from what I've read earlier today is that his parole still needs to be approved.
‎08-27-2021 08:50 PM - edited ‎08-27-2021 09:04 PM
Don't go thinking Sirhan Sirhan will be out walking in the California sunshine tomorrow. A lot of fuss discussed here prematurely.
Sirhan can be recommended for parole by the 2 person parole board he met with, but he's not free until that recommendation is reviewed by a full committee, which takes about 4 months.
If the parole recommendation is confirmed (not rejected) by the review of the full parole committee, then it has to be signed by the governor, in this case, California, it's Gavin Newsom. He gets 30 days to ponder it further.
There is no guarantee Gov. Newsom will see fit to release Sirhan. It is ultimately up to him and no one should consider this a done deal. Before everyone gets excited (beyond having a strong opinion), it might be best to wait how the review goes and then what is the decision by the California governor. Those are two hurdles yet to be faced by Sirhan. He remains in prison right now.
Even if Sirhan is released on parole, he will be supervised and controlled, to some extent. Yes, his life would be better than prison, but not entirely "free" in the sense that the rest of us live as free.
Let's all see what happens.
from the Washington Post, August 27:
It was Sirhan’s 16th parole hearing. Since California abolished capital punishment in 1972, and Sirhan’s sentence was changed to life, he has been eligible for release since 1975. The decision by the two-person panel will be reviewed by the full parole board for 120 days before it is final. Then the California governor — currently Gavin Newsom (D), who is facing a recall election that ends Sept. 14 — will have 30 days to uphold the decision, reverse it or send it back to the board.
‎08-27-2021 11:34 PM - edited ‎08-28-2021 01:47 PM
@Mindy D wrote:First Scott Peterson, then Sirhan Sirhan. Where is Lady Justice when you need her?
I think they killed her off.
‎08-27-2021 11:41 PM
@gizmogal wrote:Don't go thinking Sirhan Sirhan will be out walking in the California sunshine tomorrow. A lot of fuss discussed here prematurely.
Sirhan can be recommended for parole by the 2 person parole board he met with, but he's not free until that recommendation is reviewed by a full committee, which takes about 4 months.
If the parole recommendation is confirmed (not rejected) by the review of the full parole committee, then it has to be signed by the governor, in this case, California, it's Gavin Newsom. He gets 30 days to ponder it further.
There is no guarantee Gov. Newsom will see fit to release Sirhan. It is ultimately up to him and no one should consider this a done deal. Before everyone gets excited (beyond having a strong opinion), it might be best to wait how the review goes and then what is the decision by the California governor. Those are two hurdles yet to be faced by Sirhan. He remains in prison right now.Even if Sirhan is released on parole, he will be supervised and controlled, to some extent. Yes, his life would be better than prison, but not entirely "free" in the sense that the rest of us live as free.
Let's all see what happens.
from the Washington Post, August 27:
It was Sirhan’s 16th parole hearing. Since California abolished capital punishment in 1972, and Sirhan’s sentence was changed to life, he has been eligible for release since 1975. The decision by the two-person panel will be reviewed by the full parole board for 120 days before it is final. Then the California governor — currently Gavin Newsom (D), who is facing a recall election that ends Sept. 14 — will have 30 days to uphold the decision, reverse it or send it back to the board.
That's why I can't get all worked up over this possibility.
People are acting like he's going to be strolling the streets tomorrow, when that's simply not the case.
‎08-28-2021 04:36 AM - edited ‎08-28-2021 04:41 AM
@gertrudecloset wrote:
@Sushismom wrote:IF he shows remorse for what he's done, I think it's time for him to be paroled. Some people do change. Whether or not he's one, I can't say as I haven't spoken to him.
"Showing remorse" is not equivalent to actually having remorse. Though he may very well have remorse. What does remorse look like anyway @Sushismom ?
What, exactly, is the difference? As far as I'm concerned, one needs to actually feel remorse in order to show it (unless you're a great actor). And if you don't know what remorse looks like, well...
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