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04-15-2016 01:17 PM
Background
At the job I had for 24 years at a CPA firm, I started out in 1980 as a "secretary" (we don't even use that term anymore) making $250/week. In 1982, the firm decided to "go computerized" and bought two IBM PCs (floppy disk type, no hard drive). They cost $10,000 each, so it was a huge investment for them.
They wanted to use them for tax preparation and financial statements. The floppies were 5-1/4" disks and there was one for the system (program) and one for the data. The computer would not even boot up without the system disk (called "DOS").
One computer was given to me, and one was given to another secretary and we were told to work together to get these systems going. The DOS book had all the commands and we had to teach ourselves. I took it home every night, she never even looked at it. The tax system was linked to a server a whole state away and all of the teaching was done by techs via phone. The financial statements were done using a word processing program called "Wordstar." That, at least, had a manual.
In one year, I had both going strong. The other secretary either could not comprehend it or didn't want to participate. She was given one program to master, "Lotus," and she used to spend hours crying. They finally gave that computer and program to a young CPA who figured it out.
I had tax input forms piled up on a counter next to me and on the floor next to my desk every morning when I came in. By the end of the day, I had them all done. I worked a lot of OT, not compensated. They were sent via modem to the server in PA by the end of each day. We would then get the hard copies back from them within a week. Eventually we were able to get HP printers in-house to print them ourselves, and within a year and a half we were entirely self-contained with that program. Many, many updates came after that. I handled them all.
Compensation
My yearly reviews were always perfect, they never even filled out the form. They praised my work and offered me 8% raises. After a year or two of that, I began to realize my value to the company. I started asking for much higher increases. Whatever they offered, I doubled it, and I got it. To make a long story short, and after I had run the "computer department" for over ten years, I was making more than the new young CPA hires.
By the time I retired in 2004, I was making over $1,500 per week, and I still knew that had I been a man I would have made more, as I was running two servers and 36 workstations, and still doing it alone. I was responsible for all hardware and software updates, and after Windows arrived, the program updates had to be done on each workstation computer and we had at least 30 programs by then. When we were still on DOS, I only had to update the servers. Windows made my job much harder and far more time consuming.
Yet I was still typing financial statements (by this time using MS Word) and doing secretarial work for two of my bosses, one of whom would just sit in a chair next to me and talk while I typed. Within just minutes, we could get a full page letter dictated, typed, and printed out to be mailed. I had stopped using steno a long time ago. The other boss would just say, "send a letter to so-and-so and tell him . . . (whatever)." I always had to rewrite his letters anyway, his dictation was so horrible.
I guess I should end this what some may consider braggadocio post by saying, they considered me a tough customer, they were not fond of me. Yet they panicked to the hilt when I told them at age 66 that I was moving and would be retiring. I gave them four months notice. A few weeks before the deadline, one of my bosses came into my office and asked "are you really going to do this?" I answered yes. He came back after a meeting I saw taking place in one of their offices, and asked me to write a manual with all of my contacts and everything I did. I did that for them. It was twenty pages long.
I wound up being adequately paid because I spoke up. I knew I would never get what a man would have gotten, but I did make good money, had a significant 401k and had signed up for their Long Term Health Care Plan (thank goodness) which I have been getting benefits from since 2010.
Oh, and in keeping with a couple of other posts, I didn't care that they didn't love me. I was dealing with the harsh reality that no one was going to support me, that I was on my own, and had been since my girls were little children.
04-15-2016 02:08 PM
Lilac Tree, your post illustrates at least two aspects of success. You weren't araid to ask for what you were worth - but even more importantly, you demonstrated that you were actually worth what you were asking for.
Without going into detail, I did similar things in my career - worked well above my pay grade (Federal government) BEFORE I got the various promotions.
As I worked in HR, I was often asked to speak to clerical employees on how to get ahead. When I suggested this formula, many balked and even got angry with me. Oh - no way were they going to work above their pay grade - they wanted the promotion first - and they wanted training and government-paid college education etc. etc.
There is usually never any lack of opportunity to do more than is minimally expected and those who will take on this responsibility - and who are not afraid to ask for what they are worth - prosper more often than those who don't.
04-15-2016 03:07 PM
@Isobel Archer wrote:Lilac Tree, your post illustrates at least two aspects of success. You weren't araid to ask for what you were worth - but even more importantly, you demonstrated that you were actually worth what you were asking for.
Without going into detail, I did similar things in my career - worked well above my pay grade (Federal government) BEFORE I got the various promotions.
As I worked in HR, I was often asked to speak to clerical employees on how to get ahead. When I suggested this formula, many balked and even got angry with me. Oh - no way were they going to work above their pay grade - they wanted the promotion first - and they wanted training and government-paid college education etc. etc.
There is usually never any lack of opportunity to do more than is minimally expected and those who will take on this responsibility - and who are not afraid to ask for what they are worth - prosper more often than those who don't.
Isobel, I should have mentioned that I loved the work. I was completely fascinated at the dawn of the computer age in businesses. I loved the challenge and even when, at first, I was grossly underpaid, I still worked at the highest level of my competency. My daughters are the same way. I had done secretarial work for years prior to that and found it so boring, but it seemed to be the only thing I was qualified to do, and it supported us (just barely).
Thank you so much for understanding. I am so happy to hear that you followed the same path and became successful as well. I don't know your age, but here I am at 78 still supporting myself (and right now one of my daughters also).
Have a great day!!
04-15-2016 09:11 PM
@occasionalrain wrote:It's not that women haven't opportunities, otherwise there wouldn't be women in top positions. To generalize, women entered the workplace and instead of adopting the, when in Rome, attitude they went about expecting the same behavior from men as they expected socially. How could there not be resentment?
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You're kidding right ? Or are you a man ?
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