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@Moonchilde wrote:

@Snoopp wrote:

I would never go to a mall that had a ton of arcade games. Hope that isn't the wave of the future.

 


 

 

I think the wave of the future is to encourage those under 30 to shop, and those with children. That is the future; over 50s are not. To me, that's just logic. Baby boomers have been told they are "the" important demographic for so long they can't conceive of business/society catering to any other demographic. It's happening and it will continue.


Malls have not been the social gathering place for youth, who now sit at home texting and on their computers. They have become so satisfied with this way for meeting new boy and girlfriends, communicating in this lazy way, I can't see them rooting them out.

 

Besides that, @Moonchilde, they're not interested in shopping and spending money like Baby Boomers. A tee and some ragged jeans serves their purpose. Furthermore, they just don't have the money, the reason why large percentages have moved back home.

 

As always, money is spent with newlyweds furnishing new homes and new baby merchandise, and they love IKEA for that.

 

The money is with the Baby Boomers, and they've gotten lazy, shopping online; just don't want to be bothered hiking the malls.

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@Moonchilde   I like the Valley Fair Mall, and it seems a lot of people go there just for the food court.  There is a garage entrance close to it, and I see people pouring through and going directly to the food.  Not sure they shop while they're there!  I just hate the traffic in that area.

 

DelMonte is cold and windy!  When I go there, it's usually to just go directly to one store.  I don't walk around and browse like I do at indoor malls. 

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@just bee   I haven't heard of all the places you mentioned.  About once a year, I go to the Stanford Shopping Center.  It's very nice, but shares the same traffic and parking problems as Valley Fair.  

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@DiAnne wrote:

The malls around me are very busy.  No empty stores - in fact they just put on a large addition to one.   I like to shop on-line but I often take returns to the stores to avoid return shipping.  

 

We have a new Whole Foods under construction.  It will be interesting what happens with that.  


       We have a new, beautiful and huge Whole Foods by us that has yet to open.   It looks like it's finished and has for several months.  No one knows why it hasn't opened but rumors are flying.   

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@Bridgegal wrote:

@DiAnne wrote:

The malls around me are very busy.  No empty stores - in fact they just put on a large addition to one.   I like to shop on-line but I often take returns to the stores to avoid return shipping.  

 

We have a new Whole Foods under construction.  It will be interesting what happens with that.  


       We have a new, beautiful and huge Whole Foods by us that has yet to open.   It looks like it's finished and has for several months.  No one knows why it hasn't opened but rumors are flying.   


@Bridgegal  A regular Whole Foods or their 365 Whole Foods stores?  I wonder if the Amazon buy-out is a reason.

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@Cakers3 wrote:

@Bridgegal wrote:

@DiAnne wrote:

The malls around me are very busy.  No empty stores - in fact they just put on a large addition to one.   I like to shop on-line but I often take returns to the stores to avoid return shipping.  

 

We have a new Whole Foods under construction.  It will be interesting what happens with that.  


       We have a new, beautiful and huge Whole Foods by us that has yet to open.   It looks like it's finished and has for several months.  No one knows why it hasn't opened but rumors are flying.   


@Bridgegal  A regular Whole Foods or their 365 Whole Foods stores?  I wonder if the Amazon buy-out is a reason.


       I believe it is a regular one; it's huge!!.   They haven't even put a sign up yet.  The Amazon purchase is one of the rumors we've heard and another is the shelving they use is backlogged and they can't get it until fall???????   I'm going with the Amazon buyout.  We will see if it ever opens.

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@Bridgegal wrote:

@Cakers3 wrote:

@Bridgegal wrote:

@DiAnne wrote:

The malls around me are very busy.  No empty stores - in fact they just put on a large addition to one.   I like to shop on-line but I often take returns to the stores to avoid return shipping.  

 

We have a new Whole Foods under construction.  It will be interesting what happens with that.  


       We have a new, beautiful and huge Whole Foods by us that has yet to open.   It looks like it's finished and has for several months.  No one knows why it hasn't opened but rumors are flying.   


@Bridgegal  A regular Whole Foods or their 365 Whole Foods stores?  I wonder if the Amazon buy-out is a reason.


       I believe it is a regular one; it's huge!!.   They haven't even put a sign up yet.  The Amazon purchase is one of the rumors we've heard and another is the shelving they use is backlogged and they can't get it until fall???????   I'm going with the Amazon buyout.  We will see if it ever opens.


@BridgegalI agree about Amazon.  We've noticed a subtle yet growing difference in our local Whole Foods the past few months and the light bulb, so to speak, went on when we learned about Amazon.

 

One of our favorite cashiers (we get in her line even if it's longer than others lol) said that the employees are still up in the air in terms of what will happen to them when this buy-out is complete.

 

Our local WF markets were offering curb-side pick-up and very briefly started to offer home delivery but both were dropped.

 

We also noticed lately that many of the produce stations were sorely lacking in quantity and often in quality. 

 

So far meat has been ok.

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@Cakers3 wrote:

@Bridgegal wrote:

@Cakers3 wrote:

@Bridgegal wrote:

@DiAnne wrote:

The malls around me are very busy.  No empty stores - in fact they just put on a large addition to one.   I like to shop on-line but I often take returns to the stores to avoid return shipping.  

 

We have a new Whole Foods under construction.  It will be interesting what happens with that.  


       We have a new, beautiful and huge Whole Foods by us that has yet to open.   It looks like it's finished and has for several months.  No one knows why it hasn't opened but rumors are flying.   


@Bridgegal  A regular Whole Foods or their 365 Whole Foods stores?  I wonder if the Amazon buy-out is a reason.


       I believe it is a regular one; it's huge!!.   They haven't even put a sign up yet.  The Amazon purchase is one of the rumors we've heard and another is the shelving they use is backlogged and they can't get it until fall???????   I'm going with the Amazon buyout.  We will see if it ever opens.


@BridgegalI agree about Amazon.  We've noticed a subtle yet growing difference in our local Whole Foods the past few months and the light bulb, so to speak, went on when we learned about Amazon.

 

One of our favorite cashiers (we get in her line even if it's longer than others lol) said that the employees are still up in the air in terms of what will happen to them when this buy-out is complete.

 

Our local WF markets were offering curb-side pick-up and very briefly started to offer home delivery but both were dropped.

 

We also noticed lately that many of the produce stations were sorely lacking in quantity and often in quality. 

 

So far meat has been ok.

 

I don't shop at WF becuase the closest one is 30 minutes away and I use Wegmans and a local WF which are within 5 minutes of our house.   I  will check it our if it ever opens.   This one is where a K-Mart was.   It was bulldozed and the whole area was totally redone for this fancy WF.   I don't know if it was done by WF or the shopping center/mall where it is located but I do know this was NOT a cheap undertaking at all.   Amazing that it just sits there empty.


 

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@Bridgegal  (didn't want to keep quoting lol}.  Interesting-it could be a construction issue as you mentioned but that seems like some side-stepping. 

 

I do like WF and some prices are actually lower than our other big food chain.

 

I really don't like to see WF changing it's values.  Their employees are always happy and friendly but lately we see some looking not so happy anymore.

 

Time will tell.  Amazon is also looking to acquire a major computing entity within the next 5 years.

 

Looks like Amazon wants to rule the world. 

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@Cakers3 wrote:

@Bridgegal  (didn't want to keep quoting lol}.  Interesting-it could be a construction issue as you mentioned but that seems like some side-stepping. 

 

I do like WF and some prices are actually lower than our other big food chain.

 

I really don't like to see WF changing it's values.  Their employees are always happy and friendly but lately we see some looking not so happy anymore.

 

 


I, too, hope they don't change their values.

One of the best WF employee perks ever...the McDougall Immersion Programs for the employees of Whole Foods Markets.  John Mackey (CEO) will pay total airfare/room/board/education for this 8-10 day live-in McDougall program for a few selected associates who applied for this perk.  Many associates credit WF for changing their lives...so much more than a paycheck. Also WF encourages a plant-based lifestyle with Engine 2, Rip Esselstyn books/products.  Hope they continue to promote a Plant Based Lifestyle.