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[KKJ]

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@Judaline wrote:

I still don't know why they just didn't LEAVE! They were kind of old to submit to this. Leave and tell a shrink who will help and advise them. But get outta Dodge!

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But then they'd have to give up all the $$$ and lavish lifestyle and get jobs.

[Tinkrbl44]

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@frenchie wrote:

To me murder is murder. So it's okay if you have a good reason? Many would use that excuse. They both have that privileged look. If the parents were wealthy where is that money now? Waiting for them? Why did they kill the mother? They should stay in jail.

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@frenchie 

Here's a good reason .....  Over the years, people murdered others in self-defense, which is a pretty good reason, IMO. 

While juries can go either way in these situations, the sticky part is when the judge decides certain information should NOT be admitted. 

There's a lot we don't know about the actual facts and the actual trial.  I lived in LA at the time (1989) and we heard about it every day, but now it seems important information was omitted.  This was 35 years ago, and a very different time.  

[Tinkrbl44]

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@Etoile308 wrote:

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

@lgfan 

The "smugness" of two young men who had completely ABNORMAL lives .... 35 years ago .... is noted.

What cracks me up is how many people go to their church for confession, even for really terrible sins .... and confess their sins to the priest.  It can be serious or illegal, no matter.   

The priest then says something serious,  that they should say three Hail Mary's ..... and ... Voila!!! .... they are completely forgiven.  No jail time necessary.   

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Regardless of what happens in any type of religious contrition or confession it has zero correlation to the legal  court system. 

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@Etoile308 

My point is how much an outcome can differ .... a person can go to confession, confess their sins, and be easily forgiven with a few prayers.  In a court system, the same crime could mean life in prison.  It's ridiculous.  JMO, of course.   

[shoekitty]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

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@shoekitty wrote:

I would like bring up the fact to some, they weren't exactly boys when they committed these crimes.  They were 21 and 18.  Adults, although young adults.   It was not like they were 14 or 16. They were also well educated and pretty sophisticated in worldly ways. I can see why they didn't leave their parents.   They were bound to their parents emotionally, tragically and financially.  Indeed, family should have....or did know what was going on, no one helped them. And true, it's not like the two young adults felt they could to police and report abuse. Like, who would believe them? . The parents would shut police down quick .not to mention they were ashamed, and bound to,a secret hell.   The days of phone videos, taping weren't as easy and available like today. I think they also thought of the loss of income.  Their minds enraged ,they  plotted together a plan, carried it out hoping to be heirs ...and in full control of their lives and the money they were caught and exposed. This was murder. Let's see if new evidence reals anything.  They have had years to mature more and think of new reasons. 

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@shoekitty 

There are so many important details we haven't been privvy to.  While the boys were legal adults, just how many years ... as children .... did they suffer Jose's abuse?  Five years?  Ten years?  

How could ANYONE remain "normal" through years of abuse?  

Just speculating here, but IMO many boys and girls might wait for the day when they could have revenge ... or run away .... or who knows what?

It's a little weird how many people who've never suffered sexual abuse are "sure" what they would do ... or what the boys should have done.

Even if their release and parole is denied, it'll be interesting to see this information brought up again through present-day filters and attitudes.   

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@Tinkrbl44   Shoekitty said. No one knows what they woukd do. I have  volunteered  in a women's shelter years ago.  No one knows. You hear there stories and you get a whole new prospective.  Many times it is conditioning, fear, but money and fear especially if kids.  I think a perfect example is the BURNING BED.  You can see why she couldn't get help. A different time, no one believed her, she was so controlled and fearful, no where to go or no one to lead her there.  Many people have to disappear, in an underground situation to get away. But even there, that takes help planning and courage.  I come from a day where Police asked women, what did you do to upset him. They walk the man around block to cool off. In some places it is,still like that. And like the court system. If you have money, celebrity, power or just one money you can work the system for years and never serve time or get punishment. 

[Tinkrbl44]

@shoekitty   @San Antonio Gal 

Shoekitty said. No one knows what they would do. I have  volunteered  in a women's shelter years ago.  No one knows. You hear there stories and you get a whole new prospective.  Many times it is conditioning, fear, but money and fear especially if kids.  I think a perfect example is the BURNING BED.  You can see why she couldn't get help. A different time, no one believed her, she was so controlled and fearful, no where to go or no one to lead her there.  Many people have to disappear, in an underground situation to get away. But even there, that takes help planning and courage.  I come from a day where Police asked women, what did you do to upset him. They walk the man around block to cool off. In some places it is,still like that. And like the court system. If you have money, celebrity, power or just one money you can work the system for years and never serve time or get punishment. 

@shoekitty   @San Antonio Gal 

THANK YOU for posting this ...  more often than not, it's almost impossible to get out.  Women need help, an escape plan and confidential shelter to get out and not be tracked down by the abuser.   

Some people just think well, walk away.  Life isn't that simple, regardless of how much money the abuser has.   

[ROMARY]

I wouldn't want to make that decision.

[Q-Checker]

@THEY CallMe Mr Wilkes Your post suggests that the brothers were jailed only for punishment as you say, "Long enough."  What about protecting the public? What makes you think they would not commit another violent crime given their proven capacity to do so?

[JoyFilled Warrior]

Does anyone know what the remedies, legal or otherwise, were to these brothers for their neighborhood thieving prior to murdering their parents?

[layla2450]

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@THEY CallMe Mr Wilkes wrote:

In my opinion the Menendez brothers should absolutely,  resoundingly be released. 

It has been long enough.

This is my opinion and I fully stand by it.

Freedom for the Menendez Brothers.  Long enough is long enough.

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[reiki604]

I would say it's been long enough except for the fact that when they ran out of bullets on Jose, the had to stop and reload to shoot Kitty in the face.