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Re: Should the Father be charged???

I still don't understand how the daughter would be charged with anything...

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Re: Should the Father be charged???

On 3/17/2014 occasional rain said:

So, it's safe to assume the father is white.

To my eyes, he is not.

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Re: Should the Father be charged???

Why do posters keep saying the kid was UNDER the bed? I keep reading he was IN the bed?

Also, all the bedroom doors in my house lock. I don't know anyone who has bedroom doors that don't have locks on them. They just push in. Funny thing, one time my dog locked himself in the bedroom. I had to call my DH home from work to get him out. {#emotions_dlg.crying}

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Re: Should the Father be charged???

On 3/17/2014 terrier3 said:

He had taken his shoes off...the brother saw "feet" not shoes under the bed.

I don't think he snuck in at 2AM to go over math homework!

I think that is why the father went so ballistic.

I agree. I think the father's anger caused the killing.

The article said the father was on certain medications, I wonder if he had taken any kind of sleeping meds. Some of those can cause some really scary side effects.

TX is another "stand your ground" state, isn't it?

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Re: Should the Father be charged???

On 3/17/2014 Dagna said:
On 3/17/2014 Cakers1 said:
On 3/17/2014 terrier3 said:
On 3/17/2014 Cakers1 said:

Where is the info that the boy was naked??? Even the Houston news is not reporting that fact.

Just because he didn't have shoes on doesn't mean he wasn't clothed. Nor does it mean that he was unclothed while with the girl. After all, she would have been naked, too, or at least scantily clad.

Now we are seeing "facts" posted here with no backup. Since the Grand Jury will get this case, we'll know more about the "facts".

He had taken his shoes off...the brother saw "feet" not shoes under the bed.

I don't think he snuck in at 2AM to go over math homework!

I think that is why the father went so ballistic.

I get it - the brother saw feet, not shoes. I already said that.

I'm asking why people are making up scenarios about the boy being naked when nothing of the kind has been reported. And yes, we can "assume" what was going to go on between the two, but the fact remains the daughter would also have been unclothed.

We don't KNOW for a fact that this is what happened. The Grand Jury will get this case.

THEN we will know exactly who was wearing what, what the brother heard, what the girl was wearing, etc. etc. etc.

Yes there is quite a lot of speculation going on here - even including what kind of medication he was on - that allegedly rendered him incapable of legally buying a firearm.

And we don't know how, when, or who the person is that sold that gun. I think happy housewife should remember what goes on in FL.

This is all hand-wringing over TX, again. Many other states have variations of castle doctrines; this case is a terrible tragedy that needs all the facts put out instead of assuming what did or did not happen.

The DA did not say he definitely would not be charged; he said he probably will not be based on what they know right now. That could change.

Thoughts to the young man's family. (sad face).

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Re: Should the Father be charged???

On 3/17/2014 occasional rain said:
On 3/17/2014 terrier3 said:
On 3/17/2014 maryebrown said:
On 3/17/2014 Cakers1 said:
On 3/17/2014 terrier3 said:

Yes they will... when the facts are investigated by the Grand Jury
then charges will be made. It wouldn't surprise me if the daughter gets charged for setting this whole tragedy in motion with her lies.


The DA says it's unlikely charges will be filed. Grand jury proceedings are not made public. The DA will NOT be looking for charges from the grand jury - just to have them legally close the case...so no one will know the true story unless the family of the dead boy starts civil proceedings.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/14/charges-unlikely-for-houston-dad-accused-shooting-daughters-bo...

So, it's safe to assume the father is white.

No, not this time...I'll admit that was my first assumption too!

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Re: Should the Father be charged???

On 3/17/2014 terrier3 said:
On 3/17/2014 occasional rain said:
On 3/17/2014 terrier3 said:
On 3/17/2014 maryebrown said:
On 3/17/2014 Cakers1 said:
On 3/17/2014 terrier3 said:

Yes they will... when the facts are investigated by the Grand Jury
then charges will be made. It wouldn't surprise me if the daughter gets charged for setting this whole tragedy in motion with her lies.


The DA says it's unlikely charges will be filed. Grand jury proceedings are not made public. The DA will NOT be looking for charges from the grand jury - just to have them legally close the case...so no one will know the true story unless the family of the dead boy starts civil proceedings.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/14/charges-unlikely-for-houston-dad-accused-shooting-daughters-bo...

So, it's safe to assume the father is white.

No, not this time...I'll admit that was my first assumption too!

If he were, we'd be hearing the - it's open season on Black youth again. The press would be having a field day with that one.

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Wow, it's too bad that jumping to conclusions is not an Olympic sport - there would be several gold medalists here. There have been no reports that either teenager was unclothed, that the brother had nefarious intentions, that the gun was sold illegally, that race is a factor, etc., yet several posters have already tried and convicted the father as a trigger-happy murdering racist. It's a tragedy for all involved - no need to compound that with aggressive speculation.
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Re: Should the Father be charged???

I live in a state where the castle doctrine exists.

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On 3/17/2014 Chalcedony said: Wow, it's too bad that jumping to conclusions is not an Olympic sport - there would be several gold medalists here. There have been no reports that either teenager was unclothed, that the brother had nefarious intentions, that the gun was sold illegally, that race is a factor, etc., yet several posters have already tried and convicted the father as a trigger-happy murdering racist. It's a tragedy for all involved - no need to compound that with aggressive speculation.

Exactly. And this from the "open-minded" who love "facts."