She's gone. - Page 5

stevieb · ‎03-10-2010

This did not have to end this way and shouldn't have. Texas should have stayed the heck out of this private matter from the get go and the family would have done what they needed to do a long time ago...

In my pantry with my cupcakes...

brii · ‎06-20-2010

I hope they rest in peace together. I feel for her husband and their families.

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

In my extensive experience of seeing living wills they always start out reading something like "at the descretion of my doctor" and then describe what the patient wants. Some doctors take that first sentence to mean they have free reign to do what ever they think is best for the patient despite the family's wishes.Sometimes the family will have to get the intensivest (doctor in charge of the ICU) to intercede. In general, doctors are rather controlling individuals - this happens pretty commonly. It is best to have this discussion with your doctor before the fact and if he disagrees with you on the subject of living wills or end of life issues - find a doctor who does not.

CelticCrafter · ‎03-09-2010

On 1/27/2014 happy housewife said: In my extensive experience of seeing living wills they always start out reading something like "at the descretion of my doctor" and then describe what the patient wants. Some doctors take that first sentence to mean they have free reign to do what ever they think is best for the patient despite the family's wishes.Sometimes the family will have to get the intensivest (doctor in charge of the ICU) to intercede. In general, doctors are rather controlling individuals - this happens pretty commonly. It is best to have this discussion with your doctor before the fact and if he disagrees with you on the subject of living wills or end of life issues - find a doctor who does not.

I can tell you for a fact that my parents living will did not leave it to the discretion of their doctors.....

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

On 1/26/2014 biancardi said:
On 1/26/2014 terrier3 said:
They didn't remove her until today because the hospital was mulling APPEALING the ruling!!!

How sick...to put them through another day of torture.

Whoever runs that hospital needs to be fired...immediately.

from what I read, the administrators of the hospital are really the ideologues here. They are well known for their extremist positions and did take it upon themselves to interpret this law in this manner.

heads should roll, but I doubt that will happen.

I think the local DA was also in the hospital's corner.

Marienkaefer2 · ‎03-09-2010

Such a sad story, compounded by the legal circus surrounding it.

I really hope the family can grieve and begin to put their lives together in peace now.

If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.--Marcus Tullius Cicero

scotttie · ‎03-09-2010

On 1/27/2014 happy housewife said: In my extensive experience of seeing living wills they always start out reading something like "at the descretion of my doctor" and then describe what the patient wants. Some doctors take that first sentence to mean they have free reign to do what ever they think is best for the patient despite the family's wishes.Sometimes the family will have to get the intensivest (doctor in charge of the ICU) to intercede. In general, doctors are rather controlling individuals - this happens pretty commonly. It is best to have this discussion with your doctor before the fact and if he disagrees with you on the subject of living wills or end of life issues - find a doctor who does not.

That's the problem with living wills.

Medical Power of Attorney is much better.

hyacinth003 · ‎03-12-2010

On 1/26/2014 Qwackertoo said:
On 1/26/2014 beammeupscottie said:
I don't care for the term "ideologues" in this case.

I agree. It was a team of doctors AND the lawyers for the hospital interpreting what they thought were the requirements of the law. The author, or co-author, of the original law, is a nationally known and respected law professor who also specializes in medical ETHICS.

I don't either.

I would have supported a decision to allow a viable baby to be born. I think most MOTHERS would want their child born. I know I would.

This is another case of technology being ahead of medical ethics, which it probably always will be.

However, if the baby cannot be brought to viability, I am fine with discontinuing life support per her wishes.

In the case of advanced directives, I guess this is an issue women should address in childbearing years.

Hyacinth ${#emotions_dlg.sad}$

Financialgrl · ‎03-13-2010

Wording in my Advance Medical Directive are very specific. A lawyer drew it up for me that long ago and nowhere in it does it say it is at the discretion of any medical person. However, I'm not naïve - I realize that with any of us and no matter what our documents say, stuff is always open to interpretation and therein lies the rub.