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wow, wow, wow..what a read. {#emotions_dlg.scared}

Thanks again Marp for providing the link.

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On 3/7/2014 serenity4ever said:
On 3/7/2014 mgm2 said:
On 3/7/2014 serenity4ever said:

OK, I read most of it. I couldn't get past the mother taking off on a trip with dad and leaving a daughter home with two other kids... A daughter on medication for anorexia and bulimia and a daughter who was clearly calling out for help. She was sick. SICK!! That mother's excuses for everything make it seem like that to become a parent you should get a license. And on top of it, all the dirty laundry being aired out about her daughter for all to see.

Any mom who loved her daughter would take the heat for some of it. She took no responsibility for any of it. It was all Rachael's fault. And I still would like to hear what split the parents. I could guess.... but it would all be speculation just like most of this.

Did you purposely skip the part of relatives, neighbors and the police department keeping watch over them?

Why just blame the mother in this case serenity4ever?? And now you blame the parents for airing their dirty laundry in public??? Really? RACHEL started this entire debacle...it's ALL of her fault.

Why because I sense something about her family life is going unspoken... There is something in that family that the public are not privy to but the daughter was. I don't go by two crying parents in court garnering the support and sympathy of parents across the nation with a kid who happens to be a headache.

And I don't buy the stuff about people looking in on them. You don't leave a sick girl who they are claiming is a problem kid alone with two younger siblings. You just don't.....

I also agree with your whole post. There is something else going on here, that is my feeling as well. I don't buy the crying act either. I am not going to place all of the blame a young kid, who is very emotionally immature, without touching on the parent's own behavior. They were supposed to be the mature responsible adults here.

many parents deal with kids who swear, talk back at times, are rebellious, come home drunk, and yet they manage to work it out with their children. I just think there is something else going on in this family dynamic.

this type of case - it is a they-said, she said case. The proof of emails, voicemails - all that proves is the girl was very upset and angry at her parents. I read the documents and quite frankly, I don't believe EITHER of the parties fully.

I think they are both trying to make themselves look better, while both parties are at fault. And I do hold the parents responsible a bit more, because they were the ones that raised her and they are the ones who are supposed to be more wiser and mature.

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On 3/7/2014 straykatz said:

The bottom line is that no parent should be ordered by law to pay college funds for their adult child living at home or not.....this case wasn't just about this set of parents but ANY parent...if this girl had won this case then every adult child wanting a college education could sue their parents to pay their way.

It really does depend on how that college fund was legally set up. You are correct, no law should just force parents to pay for college tuition out of the blue.

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If this kid is a spoiled brat, she didn't get there on her own.

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I grew up in an age if you talked back, cursed, broke curfew, argued with my parents, and dared to dabble in drugs or alcohol..I would have had my butt whipped and then been handed over to the state.

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Earlier in the week I felt sorry for this girl. My feelings have changed.

I do believe the parents are somewhat culpable. Rachel's behavior is a symptom of a serious problem. The boyfriend exasperated the problem but he is not cause. Her problem is much more serious than a bad-boy boyfriend.

She needs help before it's too late.

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On 3/7/2014 NoelSeven said:

If this kid is a spoiled brat, she didn't get there on her own.

I will agree with this, Rachel's behavior was enabled by her lenient parents.

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On 3/7/2014 mgm2 said:

I grew up in an age if you talked back, cursed, broke curfew, argued with my parents, and dared to dabble in drugs or alcohol..I would have had my butt whipped and then been handed over to the state.

I did as well - I would have been beaten to within of my life and then kicked out. That is what happened to my brother, all because he wanted to go on dates and use the family car. That was the same as all of those things you mentioned according to my father.

I am glad times have changed where parents are a bit more understanding of their teenagers and are willing to work it out with them. My brother has had his share of troubled teens with his family and he has never treated them in that manner because he remembers what it was like.

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On 3/7/2014 lulu2 said:

Earlier in the week I felt sorry for this girl. My feelings have changed.

I do believe the parents are somewhat culpable. Rachel's behavior is a symptom of a serious problem. The boyfriend exasperated the problem but he is not cause. Her problem is much more serious than a bad-boy boyfriend.

She needs help before it's too late.

I don't feel sorry for the parents and I am not sorry for Rachel either. I just think that the parents are very much culpable as they did raise her.

I do wonder if the material things they gave her were in substitution for a caring environment.

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I'd like her to be evaluated for any physical/mental disorders and rule that out before sending off to a college or anywhere else.