Scottie and September

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

I couldn't let that go without letting you both know I was thinking of you.

Prayers for your husband's healing, september. Take care, that had to have been a lot of anxiety for you.

And scottie, I had the same reaction as your daughter. What an awful lot for her to go through being so young. I hope all is well for her, now.

Noel

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september · ‎03-09-2010

Thank you so much! The past few days have been very hard, for us both...he seemed to feel better this afternoon. So I'm feeling more optimistic tonight.

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 4/4/2014 september said:
Thank you so much! The past few days have been very hard, for us both...he seemed to feel better this afternoon. So I'm feeling more optimistic tonight.

That's positive news Smile I'll be thinking of you both.

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cody2 · ‎03-19-2010

Noel, you were absolutely right in your comments on the other thread. Dwelling and stewing are counterproductive when you really have serious health problems. And I know that you speak from experience.

We all have those issues with ourselves, our spouse, our children, our parents, our sisters and brothers and others that we love. Obsessing about it does no good for anyone. I am not saying that we all don't have a bad day when we just let loose. But when those thoughts are the only things in our lives...well...it is time for help. JMO.

Jannabelle · ‎03-09-2010

On 4/4/2014 cody said:
Noel, you were absolutely right in your comments on the other thread. Dwelling and stewing are counterproductive when you really have serious health problems. And I know that you speak from experience.

We all have those issues with ourselves, our spouse, our children, our parents, our sisters and brothers and others that we love. Obsessing about it does no good for anyone. I am not saying that we all don't have a bad day when we just let loose. But when those thoughts are the only things in our lives...well...it is time for help. JMO.

I agree with you 100% Cody, I know people like that, where their health is their life, their lives revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc......I think in one sense it is their purpose, the reason they get up every day, and they have to decide when enough is enough and get other interests.

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 4/4/2014 cody said:
Noel, you were absolutely right in your comments on the other thread. Dwelling and stewing are counterproductive when you really have serious health problems. And I know that you speak from experience.

We all have those issues with ourselves, our spouse, our children, our parents, our sisters and brothers and others that we love. Obsessing about it does no good for anyone. I am not saying that we all don't have a bad day when we just let loose. But when those thoughts are the only things in our lives...well...it is time for help. JMO.

cody ${#emotions_dlg.thumbup1}$

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NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 4/4/2014 Jannabelle said:
On 4/4/2014 cody said:
Noel, you were absolutely right in your comments on the other thread. Dwelling and stewing are counterproductive when you really have serious health problems. And I know that you speak from experience.

We all have those issues with ourselves, our spouse, our children, our parents, our sisters and brothers and others that we love. Obsessing about it does no good for anyone. I am not saying that we all don't have a bad day when we just let loose. But when those thoughts are the only things in our lives...well...it is time for help. JMO.

I agree with you 100% Cody, I know people like that, where their health is their life, their lives revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc......I think in one sense it is their purpose, the reason they get up every day, and they have to decide when enough is enough and get other interests.

Hi Jannabelle Smile ITA. Life has to have more or it will crush you.

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JustJules · ‎06-25-2013

On 4/4/2014 Jannabelle said:
On 4/4/2014 cody said:
Noel, you were absolutely right in your comments on the other thread. Dwelling and stewing are counterproductive when you really have serious health problems. And I know that you speak from experience.

We all have those issues with ourselves, our spouse, our children, our parents, our sisters and brothers and others that we love. Obsessing about it does no good for anyone. I am not saying that we all don't have a bad day when we just let loose. But when those thoughts are the only things in our lives...well...it is time for help. JMO.

I agree with you 100% Cody, I know people like that, where their health is their life, their lives revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc......I think in one sense it is their purpose, the reason they get up every day, and they have to decide when enough is enough and get other interests.

I come here just to share my thoughts, for whatever value they might contain, but my intent is certainly not to insult or cause argument. I honestly have not read about Scottie's daughter, or September's husband, so in that regard, all I can do is send my genuine and heartfelt prayers for comfort and healing. Noel, I only just read about your hours of tests, and hope you are doing okay. You shall be in my prayers as well, and you have been so kind and supportive of my situation with my dad.

That said... health is life, at least quality of life. It is something most take for granted (young and old and all between) until it is taken from us. It is something that all the money in the world can sometimes not purchase. So I think it is both very dismissive and insulting to say a person that has a life consumed with doctors, and hospitals, and tests, needs to find other interests. In fact, I think it is a ridiculous statement, perhaps made by someone who has never walked in those shoes. My father has plenty of interests, many he pursued before he got so sick and went into hospital, and many he would still love to pursue IF he were well enough to focus on them. His reason to get up every day right now is because people get him up, give him medication, and don't really care if he gets better or not. I cannot tell you how many hours/days/months even that I have spent in doctor's offices, hospitals and care facility rooms in the last year.... I have observed so many sick people, and their families, and the different dynamics. I have yet to encounter ONE PERSON who desired to be sick and be in that situation, and I think many would sell or give all that they had in order to be well once again. Health is a commodity we don't get to bargain with, when we have it we usually take it for granted, and when we don't have it, we want it back.

So yes, when someone is sick and in hospital, it is their purpose....their purpose to get better. Their "other interests" are not something they have time for... their INTEREST is in getting well and recovering their life, so they can go back to those "other interests".

There are people who are Hypochondriacs, for sure. However, there is a BIG difference between complaining about aches & pains or ailments, than people whose lives "revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc." I doubt those people that are in and out of hospital and doctor appointments are doing it for the attention or lack of other interests in their life!

Deb1010again · ‎05-28-2013

On 4/5/2014 Jules5280 said:
On 4/4/2014 Jannabelle said:
On 4/4/2014 cody said:
Noel, you were absolutely right in your comments on the other thread. Dwelling and stewing are counterproductive when you really have serious health problems. And I know that you speak from experience.

We all have those issues with ourselves, our spouse, our children, our parents, our sisters and brothers and others that we love. Obsessing about it does no good for anyone. I am not saying that we all don't have a bad day when we just let loose. But when those thoughts are the only things in our lives...well...it is time for help. JMO.

I agree with you 100% Cody, I know people like that, where their health is their life, their lives revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc......I think in one sense it is their purpose, the reason they get up every day, and they have to decide when enough is enough and get other interests.

I come here just to share my thoughts, for whatever value they might contain, but my intent is certainly not to insult or cause argument. I honestly have not read about Scottie's daughter, or September's husband, so in that regard, all I can do is send my genuine and heartfelt prayers for comfort and healing. Noel, I only just read about your hours of tests, and hope you are doing okay. You shall be in my prayers as well, and you have been so kind and supportive of my situation with my dad.

That said... health is life, at least quality of life. It is something most take for granted (young and old and all between) until it is taken from us. It is something that all the money in the world can sometimes not purchase. So I think it is both very dismissive and insulting to say a person that has a life consumed with doctors, and hospitals, and tests, needs to find other interests. In fact, I think it is a ridiculous statement, perhaps made by someone who has never walked in those shoes. My father has plenty of interests, many he pursued before he got so sick and went into hospital, and many he would still love to pursue IF he were well enough to focus on them. His reason to get up every day right now is because people get him up, give him medication, and don't really care if he gets better or not. I cannot tell you how many hours/days/months even that I have spent in doctor's offices, hospitals and care facility rooms in the last year.... I have observed so many sick people, and their families, and the different dynamics. I have yet to encounter ONE PERSON who desired to be sick and be in that situation, and I think many would sell or give all that they had in order to be well once again. Health is a commodity we don't get to bargain with, when we have it we usually take it for granted, and when we don't have it, we want it back.

So yes, when someone is sick and in hospital, it is their purpose....their purpose to get better. Their "other interests" are not something they have time for... their INTEREST is in getting well and recovering their life, so they can go back to those "other interests".

There are people who are Hypochondriacs, for sure. However, there is a BIG difference between complaining about aches & pains or ailments, than people whose lives "revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc." I doubt those people that are in and out of hospital and doctor appointments are doing it for the attention or lack of other interests in their life!

Perfectly said. I wasn't part of whatever thread this is a continuation of, but it seems to me the topic was people who are very sick developing outside interests. I fit into the sickly category, but what I've found is things I used to enjoy, I don't enjoy as much anymore. My life is colored by not feeling well and a general feeling of malaise. It's hard to develop interests when you're constantly hurting and otherwise not feeling well. It is your entire life.

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 4/5/2014 Jules5280 said:
On 4/4/2014 Jannabelle said:
On 4/4/2014 cody said:
Noel, you were absolutely right in your comments on the other thread. Dwelling and stewing are counterproductive when you really have serious health problems. And I know that you speak from experience.

We all have those issues with ourselves, our spouse, our children, our parents, our sisters and brothers and others that we love. Obsessing about it does no good for anyone. I am not saying that we all don't have a bad day when we just let loose. But when those thoughts are the only things in our lives...well...it is time for help. JMO.

I agree with you 100% Cody, I know people like that, where their health is their life, their lives revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc......I think in one sense it is their purpose, the reason they get up every day, and they have to decide when enough is enough and get other interests.

I come here just to share my thoughts, for whatever value they might contain, but my intent is certainly not to insult or cause argument. I honestly have not read about Scottie's daughter, or September's husband, so in that regard, all I can do is send my genuine and heartfelt prayers for comfort and healing. Noel, I only just read about your hours of tests, and hope you are doing okay. You shall be in my prayers as well, and you have been so kind and supportive of my situation with my dad.

That said... health is life, at least quality of life. It is something most take for granted (young and old and all between) until it is taken from us. It is something that all the money in the world can sometimes not purchase. So I think it is both very dismissive and insulting to say a person that has a life consumed with doctors, and hospitals, and tests, needs to find other interests. In fact, I think it is a ridiculous statement, perhaps made by someone who has never walked in those shoes. My father has plenty of interests, many he pursued before he got so sick and went into hospital, and many he would still love to pursue IF he were well enough to focus on them. His reason to get up every day right now is because people get him up, give him medication, and don't really care if he gets better or not. I cannot tell you how many hours/days/months even that I have spent in doctor's offices, hospitals and care facility rooms in the last year.... I have observed so many sick people, and their families, and the different dynamics. I have yet to encounter ONE PERSON who desired to be sick and be in that situation, and I think many would sell or give all that they had in order to be well once again. Health is a commodity we don't get to bargain with, when we have it we usually take it for granted, and when we don't have it, we want it back.

So yes, when someone is sick and in hospital, it is their purpose....their purpose to get better. Their "other interests" are not something they have time for... their INTEREST is in getting well and recovering their life, so they can go back to those "other interests".

There are people who are Hypochondriacs, for sure. However, there is a BIG difference between complaining about aches & pains or ailments, than people whose lives "revolve around doctors, hospitals, tests, etc." I doubt those people that are in and out of hospital and doctor appointments are doing it for the attention or lack of other interests in their life!

Jules, I know what you're saying but there was more to it. I'd made the comment that even though we may have medical issues in our lives, we have to have more for balance. Your dad has been dealing with a crisis, and that's very different, it takes over our lives for a time.

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