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06-17-2025 01:13 PM
@m0rgan This was my first thought too.
06-17-2025 01:16 PM
@Puzzle Piece wrote:@Mz iMac I was thinking the same thing. an INSIDE job.
Kinda odd as they would have to find a clear way to get the funds and not be caught.
The information was not meant for the pastor's knowledge. I think that he accidently found out about it and informed his congregation.
06-17-2025 01:35 PM
@lgfan wrote:
@Puzzle Piece wrote:@Mz iMac I was thinking the same thing. an INSIDE job.
Kinda odd as they would have to find a clear way to get the funds and not be caught.
The information was not meant for the pastor's knowledge. I think that he accidently found out about it and informed his congregation.
How could the pastor not know, when all of the gift cards were sent to him? It still doesn't make any sense to me.
Was there money actually on all those cards that were sent? And if the pastor received them, what was the scam? I could understand if he got a card that had no value, and the person gave their banking information to someone who had a blank card sent.
06-17-2025 01:39 PM
@Bhvbum wrote:
@lgfan wrote:
@Puzzle Piece wrote:@Mz iMac I was thinking the same thing. an INSIDE job.
Kinda odd as they would have to find a clear way to get the funds and not be caught.
The information was not meant for the pastor's knowledge. I think that he accidently found out about it and informed his congregation.
How could the pastor not know, when all of the gift cards were sent to him? It still doesn't make any sense to me.
Was there money actually on all those cards that were sent? And if the pastor received them, what was the scam? I could understand if he got a card that had no value, and the person gave their banking information to someone who had a blank card sent.
In many offices an assistant usually intercepts the mail. It was probably someone in his office who sent the e-mails hoping to get the cards before the pastor saw them.
06-17-2025 01:54 PM - edited 06-17-2025 02:17 PM
@lgfan wrote:
@Puzzle Piece wrote:@Mz iMac I was thinking the same thing. an INSIDE job.
Kinda odd as they would have to find a clear way to get the funds and not be caught.
The information was not meant for the pastor's knowledge. I think that he accidently found out about it and informed his congregation.
It kinda smells like the church secretary. If he/she usually opens the mail, they would likely get the cards without the pastor knowing. Poor scheming on their part, though, if the cards arrived on their day off or if the pastor just happened to get the mail on a particular day.
06-17-2025 02:06 PM
@Bhvbum Some folks have on-line banking and have the church QR code and send funds in that way.
That would scare me as info to my account could be breached.
06-17-2025 02:53 PM
I had a bank meeting this afternoon, the folks said this is hitting the public and it is because there is no actual card issued. The buyer gets an ID number for the $$$ amount but it will not do a thing for them, the scammer is really after a valid credit card number.
06-17-2025 04:04 PM
I know someone whose church is constantly being hacked. The hacker sends out emails from the pastor to the parishioners asking for personal info to update records or donations for different things. Yikes!
She told me this has happened several times in the past few years. The pastor keeps telling the congregation the emails are not from him. Somehow someone got the database of email addresses and that person continues to send out the scam emails. The fact that it continues tells me some parishioners are still falling for it.
Lots of people out there trying to scam! Beware!
06-17-2025 04:17 PM
@CrazyTimes wrote:The fact that it continues tells me some parishioners are still falling for it.
@CrazyTimes Tells me the church has Pookie manning the computers & there is no security protocol set up.
"Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
06-17-2025 04:25 PM
@Puzzle Piece. It sounds like a vindictive act against your pastor by somebody who had access to church records. It would be a lot of trouble for him to contact the victims then return all the cards.
Police should investigate.
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