Re: Robin Thicke and Pharrell

CANDLEQUEEN · ‎03-09-2010

I think the jury got it wrong too!!!!!I am on You Tube right now listening to both of the songs, the drums are similar but no not a right decision to me....

puglet1 · ‎03-31-2011

On 3/12/2015 MickD said: Lory - the jury listened to numerous song bars (I dont know how many) both the Pharrell/Thicke and Gaye - side by side and found all but two bars matched.....

I would think the jury has to do more than just listen. In order to make a case, they'd have to show the written music, bar by bar, for written similarity.

As a hobby, I parse songs so that I can record them myself. This practice has led me to be able to more easily distinguish each separate instrument, each vocal line, etc. more easily than the average person just listening to music and giving their opinion. I don't proclaim to be an expert but, to my ear, there is not enough similarity between the two songs to merit a lawsuit. The percussion is similar and the mood of the song is similar. It is not like a critical hook has been copied (as in "He's So Fine" and "My Sweet Lord"). This sets a very bad precedent for musical creativity IMO.

ETA: I just noticed Justina's post #20. Justina, that John Legend song you are talking about is "Save Room." You are spot on about the notes being almost identical to the opening line of "Stormy" by the Classics IV -- "You were the sunshine, baby, whenever you smiled, but I call you Stormy today." Unbelievable!

AngelPuppy1 · ‎03-13-2010

I thought that one little part sounded similar, but, really, with all the millions of songs out there how could anyone be sure when they are writing a song that there isn't something similar or that the song doesn't have similar parts? I think that this will just keep getting more out of hand.

Quite honestly, I never liked that song and I had a bad vibe from it from the beginning. I didn't like the video, how it was presented -- nothing about it. It seemed very derogatory and seedy.

Later on, Thicke's performances kind of just reinforced this. And now him saying that he really did not write it all and putting all the blame on Pharrell -- that's just bad --- really bad.

I also think that the family getting the award is just looking for a quick buck.

"A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Steve Martin

JuJu Squeezie · ‎08-16-2013

Robin should wish he never heard of either one by now. What is he Thicke? Yes that's it.

scotttie · ‎03-09-2010

On 3/12/2015 puglet1 said:
On 3/12/2015 MickD said: Lory - the jury listened to numerous song bars (I dont know how many) both the Pharrell/Thicke and Gaye - side by side and found all but two bars matched.....

I would think the jury has to do more than just listen. In order to make a case, they'd have to show the written music, bar by bar, for written similarity.

As a hobby, I parse songs so that I can record them myself. This practice has led me to be able to more easily distinguish each separate instrument, each vocal line, etc. more easily than the average person just listening to music and giving their opinion. I don't proclaim to be an expert but, to my ear, there is not enough similarity between the two songs to merit a lawsuit. The percussion is similar and the mood of the song is similar. It is not like a critical hook has been copied (as in "He's So Fine" and "My Sweet Lord"). This sets a very bad precedent for musical creativity IMO.

ETA: I just noticed Justina's post #20. Justina, that John Legend song you are talking about is "Save Room." You are spot on about the notes being almost identical to the opening line of "Stormy" by the Classics IV -- "You were the sunshine, baby, whenever you smiled, but I call you Stormy today." Unbelievable!

Very interesting post puglet. Thank you for sharing.

I agree about the precedent. I hope they appeal and win.

birkin baby · ‎01-20-2011

Robin Thicke is just gross.

winamac1 · ‎12-29-2010

On 3/13/2015 birkin baby said: Robin Thicke is just gross.

I think so too, but I think he's talented. I also think MG's song was far different.

"friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel"

birkin baby · ‎01-20-2011

On 3/14/2015 winamac1 said:
On 3/13/2015 birkin baby said: Robin Thicke is just gross.

I think so too, but I think he's talented. I also think MG's song was far different.

talented AND gross...so true,LOL. I think the songs are differen too

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

Just from reading articles in the last several days, there's a slow ground swell of established, revered artists that are getting ready to fight this. This is FAR from over.