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@Nancy Drew wrote:

The problem is when the word racist was used to manipulate someone from debating an issue and just trying to shut them up it lost its value. People should have been a lot more diligent when they used it, instead they tossed it around like a bag of chips.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Without specifics, this entire post is also useless.  Who is "tossing it around like a bag of chips?"

 

Who is the arbiter of the use of the word?  You?  Other posters here?  Mickey Mouse?  Who?

 

 

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

The problem is when the word racist was used to manipulate someone from debating an issue and just trying to shut them up it lost its value. People should have been a lot more diligent when they used it, instead they tossed it around like a bag of chips.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Without specifics, this entire post is also useless.  Who is "tossing it around like a bag of chips?"

 

Who is the arbiter of the use of the word?  You?  Other posters here?  Mickey Mouse?  Who?

 

 


You seemed not get the poster who said " When everything is racist, nothing is racist ". I was just expounding on that.  I would also question who is the arbiter of when a post is useless or not.  It's okay to not have to fight everyone. Not everyone is the enemy all the time. If you just want to be right on every opinion I guess this is the place for you.

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I'm all in favor of cleaing up old messes.

 

If, say, my cat barfed behind one of my livingroom chairs, and I didn't see him do it at the time, so it just sat there...Once I do notice it, the logical thing to do is NOT to leave it there in honor of the majesty of my cat.

 

Clean it up. Clean it all up.

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Re: Rhode Island

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

The problem is when the word racist was used to manipulate someone from debating an issue and just trying to shut them up it lost its value. People should have been a lot more diligent when they used it, instead they tossed it around like a bag of chips.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Without specifics, this entire post is also useless.  Who is "tossing it around like a bag of chips?"

 

Who is the arbiter of the use of the word?  You?  Other posters here?  Mickey Mouse?  Who?

 

 


You seemed not get the poster who said " When everything is racist, nothing is racist ". I was just expounding on that.  I would also question who is the arbiter of when a post is useless or not.  It's okay to not have to fight everyone. Not everyone is the enemy all the time. If you just want to be right on every opinion I guess this is the place for you.


Agree @Nancy Drew. What some find uselss others find sensible. If something doesn't make sense to any given individual that doesn't mean it's nonsense to others... It really is uncanny to have to say so, but no one person gets to be the arbiter of reason or of what others might view as reasonable... 


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@magicmoodz wrote:

@stevieb wrote:

@willomenia wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@jannabelle1 wrote:

I'm curious...what is the significance or history of Providence Plantation that it would be part of the name of the state?


Historically Plantation was used as a name for large estates and cash crop farms.  At the time of the revolution there may have been some of these estates that the founders wanted to claim as part Rhode Island.  As the north industrialized these estates were split up and became smaller while in the South land owners still maintained huge properties and continued to call them plantations.


Im glad someone understands what the word plantation in reference to rhode island means. Sick of the world thinking eliminating a word or statue is going to erase history


Agree with you @willomenia, it's really pretty much idiotic. What I can't fathom is those in positions to do something about it kowtowing to it and going right along with it. What might be more productive would be drawing a line in the sand and suggesting the focus be on things that truly matter and not on lame attempts to rewrite history, which can't be done nor would it be desirable to do so...


@stevieb  This came across my facebook feed the other day:

 

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Exactly @magicmoodz...


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@stevieb wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

The problem is when the word racist was used to manipulate someone from debating an issue and just trying to shut them up it lost its value. People should have been a lot more diligent when they used it, instead they tossed it around like a bag of chips.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Without specifics, this entire post is also useless.  Who is "tossing it around like a bag of chips?"

 

Who is the arbiter of the use of the word?  You?  Other posters here?  Mickey Mouse?  Who?

 

 


You seemed not get the poster who said " When everything is racist, nothing is racist ". I was just expounding on that.  I would also question who is the arbiter of when a post is useless or not.  It's okay to not have to fight everyone. Not everyone is the enemy all the time. If you just want to be right on every opinion I guess this is the place for you.


Agree @Nancy Drew. What some find uselss others find sensible. If something doesn't make sense to any given individual that doesn't mean it's nonsense to others... It really is uncanny to have to say so, but no one person gets to be the arbiter of reason or of what others might view as reasonable... 


It's almost like they have just graduated college and have entered the work force and are shocked at the different viewpoints other coworkers have.

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@Nancy Drew wrote:

@stevieb wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

The problem is when the word racist was used to manipulate someone from debating an issue and just trying to shut them up it lost its value. People should have been a lot more diligent when they used it, instead they tossed it around like a bag of chips.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Without specifics, this entire post is also useless.  Who is "tossing it around like a bag of chips?"

 

Who is the arbiter of the use of the word?  You?  Other posters here?  Mickey Mouse?  Who?

 

 


You seemed not get the poster who said " When everything is racist, nothing is racist ". I was just expounding on that.  I would also question who is the arbiter of when a post is useless or not.  It's okay to not have to fight everyone. Not everyone is the enemy all the time. If you just want to be right on every opinion I guess this is the place for you.


Agree @Nancy Drew. What some find uselss others find sensible. If something doesn't make sense to any given individual that doesn't mean it's nonsense to others... It really is uncanny to have to say so, but no one person gets to be the arbiter of reason or of what others might view as reasonable... 


It's almost like they have just graduated college and have entered the work force and are shocked at the different viewpoints other coworkers have.


And then there are some analogies that fall completely flat... as is so often the case...


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@Nancy Drew wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

The problem is when the word racist was used to manipulate someone from debating an issue and just trying to shut them up it lost its value. People should have been a lot more diligent when they used it, instead they tossed it around like a bag of chips.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Without specifics, this entire post is also useless.  Who is "tossing it around like a bag of chips?"

 

Who is the arbiter of the use of the word?  You?  Other posters here?  Mickey Mouse?  Who?

 

 


You seemed not get the poster who said " When everything is racist, nothing is racist ". I was just expounding on that.  I would also question who is the arbiter of when a post is useless or not.  It's okay to not have to fight everyone. Not everyone is the enemy all the time. If you just want to be right on every opinion I guess this is the place for you.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Oh, I got the statement.  I commented on it.  Meaningless.  WIthout context.  A big fat nothing.

 

As is saying, "It's OK to not have to fight everyone" etc., etc.

 

Totally irrelevant and meaningless to the subject.  Only meant to dismiss those who question those meaningless statements.

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From NPR

 

..."It was the theologian Roger Williams — an advocate of religious tolerance and the abolition of slavery — who, as the founder of the Rhode Island colony in the 17th century, is believed to have included the Providence Plantations phrase in the name of what was then a newly established British colony. At the time, the word "plantation" referred to a new settlement and didn't connote an agricultural estate cultivated by slaves.

 

By the mid-18th century, Rhode Island not only dominated slave trade in North America, but it also had a higher proportion of slaves in its population than any other Northern colony.

 

Many worked on farms in what at the time was known as Narragansett County. "Eventually, these farms grew to be plantations comparable to those in America's southern colonies," writes Salve Regina University adjunct professor Fred Zilian, "and with these plantations a class of 'Narragansett planters' emerged.""...

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@stevieb wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Nancy Drew wrote:

The problem is when the word racist was used to manipulate someone from debating an issue and just trying to shut them up it lost its value. People should have been a lot more diligent when they used it, instead they tossed it around like a bag of chips.


@Nancy Drew 

 

Without specifics, this entire post is also useless.  Who is "tossing it around like a bag of chips?"

 

Who is the arbiter of the use of the word?  You?  Other posters here?  Mickey Mouse?  Who?

 

 


You seemed not get the poster who said " When everything is racist, nothing is racist ". I was just expounding on that.  I would also question who is the arbiter of when a post is useless or not.  It's okay to not have to fight everyone. Not everyone is the enemy all the time. If you just want to be right on every opinion I guess this is the place for you.


Agree @Nancy Drew. What some find uselss others find sensible. If something doesn't make sense to any given individual that doesn't mean it's nonsense to others... It really is uncanny to have to say so, but no one person gets to be the arbiter of reason or of what others might view as reasonable... 


@stevieb 

 

More nonsensical, nonspecific babble.