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On 8/5/2014 littleblueparakeet said:LOL!On 8/4/2014 ~moxie~ said: The only reason we have those kind of threads is for the ego of the poster starting them.
Why can't they just make a special forum for them and call it "Classic Threads" or something like that? I don't get the reason for closing them out. If they are in their own forum, I can't see that being an issue for anyone.
That's a good suggestion, Ford!
Or they could just leave them alone.If they say they're going to leave the thread up but close it for comments, then allow a new one to be started, that's like six of one and a half dozen of the other. Why not just leave the original one open? It's a whole different ball game if they're going to delete the original thread.
I'm "technologically challenged", as they say! I was thinking about that, because I know when I submit a post to one of those threads, it takes longer to load and come back than others do. I didn't have any idea how it affects the overall working of the boards,.
I really like your idea -- I wish the forum PTB would see that and take it into consideration. Why don't you post it on that community forum thread - I think they need all the help they can get!
I just don't want them to delete the old ones.....
I'm so tech challenged now, I can hardly believe that years ago I ran a huge Human Resources Computer system on one of the "dinosaur" computers that took up entire rooms of space. And had to be in a netherworld between HR and I/S and write programs to get the reports my department needed. (Before PC's!)
it is the backup and restore procedures and indexing of tables. Has nothing to do with the "load" of the thread for people to view, but the procedures to ensure that the data is backed up properly behind the scenes. These are operational things that we don't see here.
if a thread is closed, they no longer have to back it up on a regular basis - it gets archived once and that is what is used if it needs to be restored for some reason.
Indexing is a big issue as well. The larger the table, the more indexing there is. These are all hits for resources, cpu and performance overall.
Hi, biancardi! Nice to see you here!
Regarding backups, I would be surprised if they're not doing a full backup only once a week or so, and performing simpler, partial backups (sets and kills) on other days. And the indexing is still going to be necessary, because (if I'm reading their explanation correctly) the long threads will be closed but will remain . . . so they'll still be indexed for searches. It's difficult to say without knowing their specific software, management, and configuration.
I continue to think they're trying to respond to complaints about the longstanding threads instead of looking at performance issues, but at this point in my opinion they're doing a clumsy job of it. I'm wondering if they need to scrap the previous surveys and try again, this time prominently advertising on all the forums to let everyone know the polls are available.
it is the backup and restore procedures and indexing of tables. Has nothing to do with the "load" of the thread for people to view, but the procedures to ensure that the data is backed up properly behind the scenes. These are operational things that we don't see here.
if a thread is closed, they no longer have to back it up on a regular basis - it gets archived once and that is what is used if it needs to be restored for some reason.
Indexing is a big issue as well. The larger the table, the more indexing there is. These are all hits for resources, cpu and performance overall.
Hi, biancardi! Nice to see you here!
Regarding backups, I would be surprised if they're not doing a full backup only once a week or so, and performing simpler, partial backups (sets and kills) on other days. And the indexing is still going to be necessary, because (if I'm reading their explanation correctly) the long threads will be closed but will remain . . . so they'll still be indexed for searches. It's difficult to say without knowing their specific software, management, and configuration.
I continue to think they're trying to respond to complaints about the longstanding threads instead of looking at performance issues, but at this point in my opinion they're doing a clumsy job of it. I'm wondering if they need to scrap the previous surveys and try again, this time prominently advertising on all the forums to let everyone know the polls are available.
It all depends on their configuration, you are correct. However, they could have the archived indexes saved and merged into the active indexes to save time.
even with just a weekly backup, depending on what software, hardware and configs they are using, that can be very time consuming.
it is the backup and restore procedures and indexing of tables. Has nothing to do with the "load" of the thread for people to view, but the procedures to ensure that the data is backed up properly behind the scenes. These are operational things that we don't see here.
if a thread is closed, they no longer have to back it up on a regular basis - it gets archived once and that is what is used if it needs to be restored for some reason.
Indexing is a big issue as well. The larger the table, the more indexing there is. These are all hits for resources, cpu and performance overall.
Hi, biancardi! Nice to see you here!
Regarding backups, I would be surprised if they're not doing a full backup only once a week or so, and performing simpler, partial backups (sets and kills) on other days. And the indexing is still going to be necessary, because (if I'm reading their explanation correctly) the long threads will be closed but will remain . . . so they'll still be indexed for searches. It's difficult to say without knowing their specific software, management, and configuration.
I continue to think they're trying to respond to complaints about the longstanding threads instead of looking at performance issues, but at this point in my opinion they're doing a clumsy job of it. I'm wondering if they need to scrap the previous surveys and try again, this time prominently advertising on all the forums to let everyone know the polls are available.
It all depends on their configuration, you are correct. However, they could have the archived indexes saved and merged into the active indexes to save time.
even with just a weekly backup, depending on what software, hardware and configs they are using, that can be very time consuming.
This is true. I would hazard a guess, from observing the problems with this site, they're not well-managed nor are they exactly state-of-the-art.
it is the backup and restore procedures and indexing of tables. Has nothing to do with the "load" of the thread for people to view, but the procedures to ensure that the data is backed up properly behind the scenes. These are operational things that we don't see here.
if a thread is closed, they no longer have to back it up on a regular basis - it gets archived once and that is what is used if it needs to be restored for some reason.
Indexing is a big issue as well. The larger the table, the more indexing there is. These are all hits for resources, cpu and performance overall.
Hi, biancardi! Nice to see you here!
Regarding backups, I would be surprised if they're not doing a full backup only once a week or so, and performing simpler, partial backups (sets and kills) on other days. And the indexing is still going to be necessary, because (if I'm reading their explanation correctly) the long threads will be closed but will remain . . . so they'll still be indexed for searches. It's difficult to say without knowing their specific software, management, and configuration.
I continue to think they're trying to respond to complaints about the longstanding threads instead of looking at performance issues, but at this point in my opinion they're doing a clumsy job of it. I'm wondering if they need to scrap the previous surveys and try again, this time prominently advertising on all the forums to let everyone know the polls are available.
It all depends on their configuration, you are correct. However, they could have the archived indexes saved and merged into the active indexes to save time.
even with just a weekly backup, depending on what software, hardware and configs they are using, that can be very time consuming.
This is true. I would hazard a guess, from observing the problems with this site, they're not well-managed nor are they exactly state-of-the-art.
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