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[mistriTsquirrel]

@sunshine45  He still sounds a lot like Kris Jenner to me.  Did he do anything else?

[NAES1]

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@Oznell wrote:

Whew-- complex discussion.  Because of my particular world view, I believe that sexuality was created for marriage.  I think an intelligence greater than our own, knew that something as potent as sex was best served by the safeguards of marriage.

I do feel very sorry for Mr. Hefner, regret for the type of life he lived and encouraged several generations of people to live.

Perhaps, at the end, he regretted it in his heart.  I'm going to hope for that.

   I have read through ( I believe 'almost' every single one's thoughts) posts, and I do agree with @Oznell having- entitled to her own opinion as someone had said among these many ....> personal opinions. BUT! mine as well would be: 

 No one can say he's in a better place! 

[sidsmom]

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@sunshine45 wrote:

@mistriTsquirrel

if you google, there are TONS of articles calling him a visionary.

maybe not everyone saw him in that way, but there are many who did.

Hugh Hefner, visionary editor who founded Playboy magazine, dies at 91

His magazine was shocking at the time, but it quickly found a large and receptive audience and was a principal force behind the sexual revolution of the 1960s.

Mr. Hefner brought nudity out from under the counter, but he was more than the emperor of a land with no clothes. From the beginning, he had literary aspirations for Playboy, hiring top writers to give his magazine cultural credibility. It became a running joke that the cognoscenti read Playboy “for the articles” and demurely averted their eyes from the pages depicting bare-breasted women.

Playboy also had a surprisingly high readership among members of the clergy — who received a 25 percent subscription discount — and women.

“Hefner was, first and foremost, a brilliant businessman,” David Allyn, author of “Make Love, Not War: The Sexual Revolution, an Unfettered History,” told The Washington Post in an interview. “He created Playboy at a time when America was entering a period of profound economic and social optimism. His brand of sexual liberalism fit perfectly with postwar aspirations.”

you can read more of this particular article on the washington post.

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@sunshine45

Have you read the Rolling Stone article about him?

August, 2000 issue....just Google.

My radio station guys were talking about it.  

Interesting to hear a male’s perspective since a boy’s

first Playboy is almost a rite of passage.

[tansy]

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@mistriTsquirrel wrote:

@sunshine45  He still sounds a lot like Kris Jenner to me.  Did he do anything else?

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Look at the Daily Beast, @mistriTsquirrel.  He did have a fairly good stance on civil rights.  

[tansy]

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@NAES1 wrote:

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@Oznell wrote:

Whew-- complex discussion.  Because of my particular world view, I believe that sexuality was created for marriage.  I think an intelligence greater than our own, knew that something as potent as sex was best served by the safeguards of marriage.

I do feel very sorry for Mr. Hefner, regret for the type of life he lived and encouraged several generations of people to live.

Perhaps, at the end, he regretted it in his heart.  I'm going to hope for that.

   I have read through ( I believe 'almost' every single one's thoughts) posts, and I do agree with @Oznell having- entitled to her own opinion as someone had said among these many ....> personal opinions. BUT! mine as well would be: 

 No one can say he's in a better place! 

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Funny thing is though no one said Oznell wasn't entitled to her viewpoint...not that I saw:/

[sidsmom]

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@tansy wrote:

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@mistriTsquirrel wrote:

@sunshine45  He still sounds a lot like Kris Jenner to me.  Did he do anything else?

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Look at the Daily Beast, @mistriTsquirrel.  He did have a fairly good stance on civil rights.  

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Good article.  Like the last part:

‘...Hefner deftly used culture and his pocketbook to help transform the way underrepresented groups are viewed and, as we are seeing right now, culture is often the battlefield on which America’s ideological wars are fought. Hugh Hefner deserves credit for fighting the good fight, long before it was popular to do so.’

[sunshine45]

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@mistriTsquirrel wrote:

@sunshine45  He still sounds a lot like Kris Jenner to me.  Did he do anything else?

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if you read the article there is a lot more......and other articles also @mistriTsquirrel. unfortunately some of them cannot be linked due to political links on various websites.

others have mentioned some of the other things he has done. he has given a lot to charitable organizations, was very involved in the civil rights movement (as someone else stated), employed A LOT OF people, created an empire, has done a lot for the preservation of old movies, served in ww2, established the playboy jazz festival, helped restore the HOLLYWOOD sign, donated money to USC for a course in censorship in cinema, had fundraising events for MUCH LOVE ANIMAL RESCUE and GENERATION RESCUE. donated to conservation groups.......i am sure there are more, but i will leave it at that.

you dont have to like him, admire him, or appreciate him, but he has contributed and given back a lot during his lifetime.

[tansy]

Just for the record, I'm still ambivalent about the man. 😕

[truffle]

The LA Mansion

In 2010, Hugh Hefner's former girlfriend Izabella St. James wrote in her memoir Bunny Tales that the house was in need of renovation: "Everything in the Mansion felt old and stale, and Archie the house dog would regularly relieve himself on the hallway curtains, adding a powerful whiff of urine to the general scent of decay." St. James further wrote for her memoir Bunny Tales, "Each bedroom had mismatched, random pieces of furniture. It was as if someone had gone to a charity shop and bought the basics for each room"; and, "The mattresses on our beds were disgusting - old, worn and stained. The sheets were past their best, too.

In February 2011, 123 people complained of fever and respiratory illness after attending a DomainFest Global conference event held at the Playboy Mansion. Epidemiologists from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health reported their findings at a Centers for Disease Control conference that the disease outbreak was traced to a whirlpool 

hot tub in the mansion's famed grotto, where they found Legionella pneumophila, which causes Legionnaires' disease. 

The Chicago Mansion

For a period in the 1970s, Hefner divided his time between Chicago and the Mansion West. The Chicago mansion boasted a brass plate on the door with the Latin inscription Si Non Oscillas, Noli Tintinnare ("If you don't swing, don't ring").

Although Playboy Enterprises would remain headquartered in Chicago until 2012, Hefner left the city permanently for Los Angeles in 1974 following the conviction and ensuing suicide of longtime aide Bobbie Arnstein, the culmination of "a federal... investigation of drug use in Hefner's mansion." 

google playboy mansion - wikipedia

[Noel7]

Very interesting @truffle.   That information really surprises me.          

Holly Madison described unusual behavior, there are summaries in a Cosmopolitan article online.

What I appreciated about Hefner was that early on he condemned bigotry and supported gay relationships.