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[tansy]

Well, @Cakers3, I was thinking more along the lines of Tom Selleck's chest😊

[Bri36]

I don't think HH objectified women.  He respected women.

I can't say that about Bob Guccione or Larry Flynt.

Many of Hef's personal assistants and others close to him were very loyal to him.  They all spoke highly of him as a person and a business man.

[Noel7]

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@sunshine45 wrote:

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@tansy wrote:

Was a woman behind Playgirl magazine?   

no, that was a man also.

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People are trying to make the ‘comparison’ to other 

adult magazines like Playgirl, Hustler, Penthouse, etc, 

but none of those are even light-years close to the

signficance of Playboy.   So many important authors got 

their start through a Playboy publication.  

So did Bill Cosby and his pill dates.  

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You’ll have to unpack this one.

What are you talking about?

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Holly Madison, author and former Hef girlfriend and bunny, wrote a book about HH and the parties.  She claimed Bill Cosby and HH were good friends and Cosby was slipping pills into women's drinks at Hef's parties. 

[Cakers3]

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@tansy wrote:

Well, @Cakers3, I was thinking more along the lines of Tom Selleck's chest😊

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@tansy  How many actually looked like this?  ROTFL!

[cbrite]

cbrite wrote:

I cry if I read about an ant getting stepped on... Hugh Hefner I felt nothing.

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@cbrite

You're kidding ... right?

@Tinkrbl44 yes

ETA-The ant I would feel bad..maybe not cry.

[fourpaws56]

May he rest in peace.....JMO, a LOT of men are dirty old  men, they just do it in private...that said, I don't think HH was a dirty old man, I think he had a dream and he fulfilled it...

[suzyQ3]

I'm having trouble with this whole "visionary" label. What exactly did he envision?

He didn't prmote the equality of women; he promoted them as objects of pleasure for men -- in bunny suits, no less.  He may have been a political progressive (I don't know), but when it came to women, he was about as old-fashioned as they come.

His rallying call for sexual freedom was opportunistic.

[colliemom4]

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

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@colliemom4 wrote:

I saw Larry Flynt on Million Dollar Listing LA about a week ago. He was in a wheelchair.

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@colliemom4. He has been in a wheelchair since the 70's I think. Someone shot him and he is partially paralyzed.

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@proudlyfromNJ Yes. Sorry. I meant to say in his wheelchair.

[Cakers3]

I don't know where people get the idea that Playboy led women to freedom of expression, especially se*ual.

I'm almost certain that the birth control pill was the force behind it, not some centerfold with whom most women either didn't even see or if they did, didn't identify with said centerfold.

Along with the pill came the awareness of ourselves for being women; Our Bodies, Ourselves comes to mind.  To give HH credit for the women's movement is beyond laughable.

Interviews and articles aside, (assuming all who purchased didn't do so just for the pictures lol) his empire se*ualized women in an unrealistic manner.

How anybody could say "he will be missed" escapes me.

[Noel7]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

I don't know where people get the idea that Playboy led women to freedom of expression, especially se*ual.

I'm almost certain that the birth control pill was the force behind it, not some centerfold with whom most women either didn't even see or if they did, didn't identify with said centerfold.

Along with the pill came the awareness of ourselves for being women; Our Bodies, Ourselves comes to mind.  To give HH credit for the women's movement is beyond laughable.

Interviews and articles aside, (assuming all who purchased didn't do so just for the pictures lol) his empire se*ualized women in an unrealistic manner.

How anybody could say "he will be missed" escapes me.

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@Cakers3

I had decided I wasn't going to get into this because of previous experience here, but I want to back you up.  It wasn't Hefner, you said it well.  It was the pill and freedom from pregnancy, and there have been studies with the same conclusion.  

No, it wasn't a man who set women free.