Quiet Quitting??? - Page 3

RespectLife · ‎02-27-2012

@willomenia wrote:
Then companies should start doing quiet firing. Give them less hours, harder tasks to perform. When they can't keep up, fire them.

That's what they WANT the companies to do. The employees are doing this on purpose.

I understand Quiet Quitting is NOT doing your job, slacking off, slowing down, not meeting expectations SO THAT YOU WILL GET FIRED.

You get fired, YOU GET unemployment.

You quit or don't show...you don't.

RespectLife · ‎02-27-2012

@CalminHeart wrote:
@Sooner wrote:
The proper term for that is "Slacker." "Bum" is applicable as well. Among others. Entitled people, etc.

And then we wonder why they're quitting.

If you treat people with respect and pay them a living wage, they'll be a lot more productive and loyal.

OH BROTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

newname0 · ‎06-20-2015

My husband had a expression for this - retired while on active duty - ROADs

RespectLife · ‎02-27-2012

@Meowingkitty wrote:
It's nothing new. It just has a name now. In my last job I basically did quiet quitting. I hated the company, not fond of most of the people and the work was mind numbing. The company did not give raises ever. (Oh maybe a few bucks every five years or so but basically nothing much). I stayed because I had enough time in to get a nice severance package and I was only hanging on because of it. I was with the company 8 years and saw nothing but a company being run into the ground. Sure I could have probably quit years earlier but I was getting to old for most places to want to hire me even though I was only in my 50's.Transfer to another position wouldn't happen either because most jobs were out of state. When review time came around everyone got the same review but with a different grade. If you were one of the last ones hired in the department the best you would ever get would be a 4 with 5 being the lowest. No matter if you reinvented the wheel you would get a bad review. I knew it was just a matter of time before layoffs were coming so I basically did the bare minimum since I knew there was nothing in it for me and the company didn't care. And frankly neither did any of the employees at this point. I was right. After about two years into my current position they transferred the job to another city. I got what I wanted, my severance pay. I decided I had had enough of corporate America and retired. I understand why quiet quitting is a thing.

See? Exactly....SMH

I coudl never live with myself doing that....

Glad to see you got a severance pay that your work ethic didn't deserve.

RespectLife · ‎02-27-2012

@Stray wrote:
If someone is fulfilling minimum requirements of their job it’s very difficult if not impossible to fire them. However, it was my experience, that if you went above or beyond expectations, you could be rewarded quite handsomely. I had many “quiet quitters” working for me but I’d not use that term. They were basically long term employees who felt they would never be fired & were lazy.

In the end, they lost their jobs when the Company outsourced our department & tried to place many of the employees with the new company. Only high performers were selected. If you are of a certain age & lose your pension, that’s a big deal.

It is only hard to fire them if you are union @Stray

Many companies are AT WILL, meaning you can quit or get fired for any reason.

No such thing as hard to fire.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@RollTide2008 wrote:

Unemployment is hovering around 4%. Everyone is short staffed. Where are you going to find people to replace them?

I can tell by many of these comments some of you have been out of the workforce for some time. Go above and beyond and get rewarded? Ha! How about go above and beyond and you'll be given someone else's job too. Companies downsized during the last recession and worked their remaining staff harder for no more, and sometimes less, money and fewer resources. When workers voluntarily left the workforce during the pandemic, that only got worse.

As someone who has been in the workforce for the past 35 years and still is, read @RollTide2008 's post. It sums up perfectly as to what we workers have experienced since the recession of 2009.

I will add that the Millenials who came in 10 years ago en masse completely decimated loyalty and company benefits by job hopping in search of that extra buck an hour.

They didn't care about 401ks and other retirement benefits so they've gone away. Companies took note and stopped treating employees as valuable resources and everyone is now a body. Easy to do with the largest generation/bodies ever coming into the workforce and much cheaper in the long run.

Medical insurance is paper only. It covers nothing and is there to keep the employer compliant with the government only.

And as far as attitudes, EVERYONE needs to look in the mirror. The level of nastiness from the customer side has reached a level that I've never seen especially in the six years since it became trendy to be a jerk.

The front line staff knows what you need. Unfortunately, we seldom have the tools to help you and that is the most stressful position anyone can ever be in.

You get what you give, all the way around from the CEO to the front line staff to the customer trying to get serviced. It's a bad system and we're all responsible for it.

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@CalminHeart wrote:
@willomenia wrote:
Then companies should start doing quiet firing. Give them less hours, harder tasks to perform. When they can't keep up, fire them.

Your comment is why people are quiet quitting.

Employees aren't children. Why should they be punished for wanting a living wage, benefits, and respect?

If corporations would treat people with respect and pay a living wage, they'd get a lot better productivity and loyalty from employees.

I was an officer for a huge international corporation. The cruelty I saw the last 10 years was abhorrent. Managers ridiculed employees in public, called them names, picked on people, gave raises only to pets, discriminated in a way that HR wasn't couldn't confirm, singled out people over 60, etc etc. Within 6 months of my retirement, everyone over 60 in all my depts were fired, quit or retired.

I would regularly get yelled at for not screaming, yelling, and calling my people names, writing people up, etc. However, my depts always had the best productivity. Perhaps it's because I treated them better than other leadership.

I can't tell you how many times someone would brag about offering pay below the minimum for a job "because they could" and then want a pat on the back for saving money in the budget.

My job took me all over the country working with countless other big corporations in the same kind of business. They all bragged about the same kinds of things. It made me sick to my stomach.

@CalminHeart Because life isn't fair and because some of us have to work really hard to get ahead and because able bodied people should work. You aren't guaranteed success or a good living. And that is hard for a lot of privileged people to grasp now.

It isn't a given or a right that you have a "decent"living if you are able bodied. That concept has flown for awhile but pretty soon people don't work, most don't have mone to spend, the economy busts and almost everybody has the same--not much.

By doing away with the idea that working is good, we have to work to live, we are promoting the idea that a few work to support the ones not interested inworking and that's ok. There has to be an incentive to work and that's food and shelter.

3JJJ · ‎04-24-2018

I was a victim of quiet firing. I didn't realize the company was getting rid of us "older" employees until they fired 2 of my friends,one worked there 38 years the other 40. They gave all of the work the one did to me, with no pay increase. I asked about that and they said, we'll talk about it in 60 to 90 days. Guess what - I quiet retired on them.Came in a few days later and said i'm gone. Best thing that every happened to me. I know down the line they would have fired me because I never could have done both jobs. So at least i left under my terms. I was not going to give them the pleasure of firing me. What a sad world we live in.

RollTide2008 · ‎02-14-2017

@Laura14 wrote:
@RollTide2008 wrote:

Unemployment is hovering around 4%. Everyone is short staffed. Where are you going to find people to replace them?

I can tell by many of these comments some of you have been out of the workforce for some time. Go above and beyond and get rewarded? Ha! How about go above and beyond and you'll be given someone else's job too. Companies downsized during the last recession and worked their remaining staff harder for no more, and sometimes less, money and fewer resources. When workers voluntarily left the workforce during the pandemic, that only got worse.
As someone who has been in the workforce for the past 35 years and still is, read @RollTide2008 's post. It sums up perfectly as to what we workers have experienced since the recession of 2009.

I will add that the Millenials who came in 10 years ago en masse completely decimated loyalty and company benefits by job hopping in search of that extra buck an hour.

They didn't care about 401ks and other retirement benefits so they've gone away. Companies took note and stopped treating employees as valuable resources and everyone is now a body. Easy to do with the largest generation/bodies ever coming into the workforce and much cheaper in the long run.

Medical insurance is paper only. It covers nothing and is there to keep the employer compliant with the government only.

And as far as attitudes, EVERYONE needs to look in the mirror. The level of nastiness from the customer side has reached a level that I've never seen especially in the six years since it became trendy to be a jerk.

The front line staff knows what you need. Unfortunately, we seldom have the tools to help you and that is the most stressful position anyone can ever be in.

You get what you give, all the way around from the CEO to the front line staff to the customer trying to get serviced. It's a bad system and we're all responsible for it.

You have the cause and effect backwards. Companies didn't stop being loyal because employees started job hopping. People started job hopping because companies aren't loyal. People who entered the workforce ten years ago came in the wake of the recession downsizing. It's not that millenials weren't interested in investing in their 401k's, they're too busy paying off their student loans. The were told to get degrees and all these opportunities would be open to them only to graduate during a recesssion.

For years, companies gave 3% increases at best. To really better themselves, younger workers needed to job hop to get ahead. I think it's hard to fault them for that. I'm not going to stick around for my paltry 3% if I can go somewhere else and get a 20% bump.

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@RollTide2008 wrote:
@Laura14 wrote:
@RollTide2008 wrote:

Unemployment is hovering around 4%. Everyone is short staffed. Where are you going to find people to replace them?

I can tell by many of these comments some of you have been out of the workforce for some time. Go above and beyond and get rewarded? Ha! How about go above and beyond and you'll be given someone else's job too. Companies downsized during the last recession and worked their remaining staff harder for no more, and sometimes less, money and fewer resources. When workers voluntarily left the workforce during the pandemic, that only got worse.
As someone who has been in the workforce for the past 35 years and still is, read @RollTide2008 's post. It sums up perfectly as to what we workers have experienced since the recession of 2009.

I will add that the Millenials who came in 10 years ago en masse completely decimated loyalty and company benefits by job hopping in search of that extra buck an hour.

They didn't care about 401ks and other retirement benefits so they've gone away. Companies took note and stopped treating employees as valuable resources and everyone is now a body. Easy to do with the largest generation/bodies ever coming into the workforce and much cheaper in the long run.

Medical insurance is paper only. It covers nothing and is there to keep the employer compliant with the government only.

And as far as attitudes, EVERYONE needs to look in the mirror. The level of nastiness from the customer side has reached a level that I've never seen especially in the six years since it became trendy to be a jerk.

The front line staff knows what you need. Unfortunately, we seldom have the tools to help you and that is the most stressful position anyone can ever be in.

You get what you give, all the way around from the CEO to the front line staff to the customer trying to get serviced. It's a bad system and we're all responsible for it.

You have the cause and effect backwards. Companies didn't stop being loyal because employees started job hopping. People started job hopping because companies aren't loyal. People who entered the workforce ten years ago came in the wake of the recession downsizing. It's not that millenials weren't interested in investing in their 401k's, they're too busy paying off their student loans. The were told to get degrees and all these opportunities would be open to them only to graduate during a recesssion.

For years, companies gave 3% increases at best. To really better themselves, younger workers needed to job hop to get ahead. I think it's hard to fault them for that. I'm not going to stick around for my paltry 3% if I can go somewhere else and get a 20% bump.

@RollTide2008 It is choices that people made and the results that happend because of them. No guarantees. The took the chance for the big bucks and it's a chance. Always has been.

It has always been an option to job hop and trade more money for job security and that is often the result. It is part of what's called life. And it took us somewhere around 15 years to pay off my husband's school loans and that's part of life too.