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[SydneyH]

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@Foolywooly11 wrote:

Now that "fake urine" can be purchased in stores, I wonder how any pre-employment drug test will be helpful in determining who's on drugs, or not!

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It may be easy to get, but most companies will test the temperature, they can tell almost immediately it wasn't 'processed' recently.

[Mellie32]

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@RedTop wrote:

I live in southern WV, and the last 3 fast food restaurants that opened in town, took longer to open, due to not being able to find employees who could pass the drug test.   

My trucker daughter is tested twice a year; teacher daughter is tested yearly.   

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Teachers tested yearly for drugs?  Wow - never heard of that.  Might be a good thing.  

[Natasha218]

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@SydneyH wrote:

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@Foolywooly11 wrote:

Now that "fake urine" can be purchased in stores, I wonder how any pre-employment drug test will be helpful in determining who's on drugs, or not!

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It may be easy to get, but more companies will test the temperature, they can tell almost immediately it wasn't 'processed' recently.

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       What would be the point of any drug test if it could so easily be gotten around?  I think some people watch too many tv movies...lol.  

[CrazyDaisy]

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@Foolywooly11 wrote:

Now that "fake urine" can be purchased in stores, I wonder how any pre-employment drug test will be helpful in determining who's on drugs, or not!

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It is really not that easy to fool them anymore.  At various times I have been asked to remover shoes and socks, time limits to produce sample and the last time they took the temp. of the sample to make sure it had just been "released".  Are there ways, probably but most don't go through that much effort.  Those that do are likely heavy users and would have other red flags.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@september wrote:

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@september wrote:

Not all people who test positive for marijuana are heavy users.  Some use it occasionally, as some people might use wine!  And many of them who can't get jobs, aren't looking to operate dangerous equipment.  

They're applying for jobs in the hospitality industry...like managing restaurants or hotels on federal property (national parks). 

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The business owner interviewed was talking about her company having difficulty and she talked specifically about not being able to hire drug free individuals to operate heavy and potentially dangerous equipment.

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I understood what happened in this case. I was just adding to the conversation   Some of us, who hire employees who aren't going to be operating machinery, face the same diffuculties in finding good people, due to these tests. 

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It is not just about operating heavy equipment, it is about being impared at work and the liability to the business. 

[CAcableGirl2]

@Kachina624  Employeers have "drug free" policies and that includes those who come to work and could be considered drunk.   Even though drinking alcohol is legal, any employee who could be considered "under the influence" even with legal substances can be fired.  For those employees who drive vehicles, driving DUI (legal substance or not), is a huge liability for a company and that is why those policies are in place.   Its getting very difficult to hire applicants, temp worker or permanent employee, because they either can't pass a background or drug test.   

[Kachina624]

@CAcableGirl2  It's not "getting difficult"; this has been an on-going problem for years.  I spent 32 years working in the personnel placement industry and heard these complaints from employers back in the '70s.  I'm sure the legalization of marijuana has just exacerbated the problem.  I can't imagine why states think this was a good idea. 

[Q4u]

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@september wrote:

Not all people who test positive for marijuana are heavy users.  Some use it occasionally, as some people might use wine!  And many of them who can't get jobs, aren't looking to operate dangerous equipment.  

They're applying for jobs in the hospitality industry...like managing restaurants or hotels on federal property (national parks). 

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The problem is the half-life of the drugs used (whether recreational or not)....  alcohol is relatively fast, with one drink being metabolized in an hour (with a healthy liver).  Drugs (depending on which) can take days to be metabolized (or longer).  

[Lipstickdiva]

My husband has a Class A CDL.  Even prior to that though he was subjected to random drug AND alcohol tests with his employer.  Often he would finish his work shift and was told to go to the office where he was told he needed to be escorted to an off-site clinic where he was tested.  Sometimes they did it right when he came into work so had he drank before showing up for work, it would have been a problem.

He just recently had to go for a random drug and alcohol test.  They were on a job site and his boss showed up and pulled 4 people from the crew and took them for testing.  He has never had a problem but he has a friend who was having an issue getting a job due to the test and then another who couldn't keep a job due to testing.