Pit Bull - Page 8

CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

@beach-mom wrote:
Here's what DH says about Pit Bulls. The breed was bred to fight. They are high-energy dogs that need constant human attention, and should never be kept outside if you want to have them as a pet.

It's too bad most owners are the type that like to keep their dogs chained outside, maybe in a pen.

We've had friends who owned them and had no problems. We have good friends who had a tragic - and I think unfair - experience with their Lab. They were outside late Saturday morning, getting ready to barbecue, and the dog was playing in their fenced in yard. Their son threw a ball that went over the fence, and the Lab went under a part of the fence that was coming loose. There was a young family walking home from their religious services - parents, a toddler, and an infant. Their dog went up to them and growled - he didn't bite or attack. Our friends called him and he went back to them right away, but the mother called the police. They came and took him right away. Our friends fought it; there were witnesses who said the dog never attacked, but this mother would not back down. She claimed he "bared his teeth" and was getting ready to attack. Three days later, they euthanized our friends' pet. We were all so sad. It happened so fast, and there was nothing anyone could do. This dog was an indoor pet, one of the sweetest dogs I've known. He was only outside because he was with his family.

If I did own a Pit Bull, I would give him/her plenty of attention and love, but I think I would sleep with the bedroom door closed at night!

I believe you are making an inaccurate assumption that most pit bull owners are "the type" that chains them up outside or keeps them in pens. Would be interested in knowing where that information came from.

Sorry about your friends dog. Unfortunately people make assumptions and generalizations about dogs as a whole rather than as individuals.

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happycat · ‎09-18-2010

Well, I think whether it was a pit bull, a black and tan coonhound, a lab, or what, once it has attacked twice, this time putting the walker in the hospital, something needs to happen.

Its kind of scary the dog can break the chain. Even if they put him in a pen or a fence, there is no gaurantee he couldn't climb out. I have two dogs who have climbed out of pens. I guess if it was a tall privacy fence, maybe it couldn't get out.

The neighbors deserve to be safe and you should be able to walk without being in danger.

CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

@suzyQ3 wrote:
@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@MarieIG wrote:
I found this article about dog bite force. http://petcomments.com/ten-dogs-which-have-the-strongest-bite/
The amount of force that a dog can produce is irrelevant if they do not bite another dog or person. A small dog biting in the right place can cause considerable damage.
@CrazyDaisy, I've no doubt that a small dog could bite and hurt a person. But if I had to choose being attacked by a 10-pound dog or a dog who weighs many times that amount and is known for its forceful and relentless bite, I'll take the little guy any day.

I would choose not to be attacked by any dog. A small dog bite can do much more damage than just hurt. "Forcful and relentless" bite can be used to describe any dog.

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CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

@happycat wrote:
Well, I think whether it was a pit bull, a black and tan coonhound, a lab, or what, once it has attacked twice, this time putting the walker in the hospital, something needs to happen.
Its kind of scary the dog can break the chain. Even if they put him in a pen or a fence, there is no gaurantee he couldn't climb out. I have two dogs who have climbed out of pens. I guess if it was a tall privacy fence, maybe it couldn't get out.
The neighbors deserve to be safe and you should be able to walk without being in danger.

I would agree that ANY dog that has bitten a person orbanother dog needs to be assessed as to the situation. A dog should never be allowed to be in a situation where it can bite again

Someday, when scientists discover the center of the Universe....some people will be disappointed it is not them.

Moonchilde · ‎05-23-2010

A person should not be able to obtain a dog for the purpose of keeping it chained up outside to “guard” anything. IMO if you don’t want a dog as a pet/companion/part of the family, you shouldn’t be able to get your hands on one. And if someone is reported for a chained up dog who is outside more than a few hours a day, the dog should be rehomed and the “owner” cited so that they can never legally own a dog again.

I know people who have pitbulls and they are big babies. I know someone who has a pit bull who wears a tutu, and also has a chihuahua. I’d be more afraid of the chi - it’s nasty. All the PB does is cuddle, chew her toys and sleep - and be bullied by the chi.

I doubt I personally would ever be truly comfortable, though, owning a PB or a pit mix. Even if it came from a great litter with mellow parents and was raised with nothing but loving kindness, I would always wonder if a shoe was going to drop at some point. I don’t think I’d ever not be wondering. It’s sad, but the aggressiveness is inbred and still there under the best of circumstances.

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mousiegirl · ‎03-09-2010

Keeping a dog tied up can create a mean dog.

mousiegirl · ‎03-09-2010

@GSPgirl wrote:
@Isobel Archer wrote:
Just been advised by a neighbor in an adjoining home owner association, that there is a pit bull who has attacked a person walking - putting him in the hospital. This is apparently the second time this dog has attacked someone walking by.

The dog was chained - and broke free to attack the walker. The owners want to keep the dog and do not believe any of this is their responsibility. The person who is hospitalized is suing them and I guess we'll see how that turns out.

Animal control was called and the dog is being "evaluated" whatever that means.

I'm glad I was informed about this as I frequently walk (glad it's too cold right now), but won't until I hear how this is resolved.

I know all the arguments about how pit bulls are really good dogs and the ones who bite have just been treated badly/weren't properly trained, etc. But I also believe that once a dog has attacked (especially more than once) that there is little hope of changing that behavior.

This is all very sad.
Carry your mace spray. My substitute mailman once sprayed my large dog who got out on our front lawn with pepper or mace. I apologized because he didn’t know my dog. My dog’s face ballooned up as if he were in a fight. My dog wasn’t a biter, but you never know. He may have bit him protecting us and we would have had to go to a PO BOX to get our mail. US mail can do that.

@GSPgirl If your dog had bitten, he would have been protecting himself, his space, in general. If you were being attacked, then he may have bitten to protect you.

mousiegirl · ‎03-09-2010

@CrazyDaisy wrote:
Oh good another pitt bull discussion........

Any dog that has bitten, charged, challenged, attacked, lunged etc need to be assessed as to their behavior and the situation. Judging a dog by how they look is as bad as judging a person by how they look.

@CrazyDaisy In general, a Pitbull is judged not by it's looks, but by it's actions and history of the breed.

mousiegirl · ‎03-09-2010

I know that some animal shelters which have Pitbulls will tell a prospective adoptor that it is another type of dog or a mix, which I think is terrible, but I also believe anyone wanting to adopt a dog needs to educate themselves on the charastics of breeds as even with a mix, it is very helpful in order for a good match to be made.

mousiegirl · ‎03-09-2010

@CrazyDaisy wrote:
@Kachina624 wrote:
Many communities have outlawed the chaining of dogs, recognizing that it can affect a dog's disposition. I can't understand the casual attitude of animal control agencies toward dogs that are known to have attacked people. There is no question in my mind that they should be put down without waiting for a second instance.
You are much more likely to be bitten/attacked by a small dog. Animal control can not have rules that cannot be applied across the board. Public in general is willing to give small dogs a pass, where as pit bulls must be distroyed.

@CrazyDaisy Most likely, a small dog cannot kill a person.