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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

On 3/25/2015 Sister Golden Hair said:

I think that it is just human nature to ask why something has happened. There is nothing wrong with discussing situations as long as someone doesn't take it for fact until the truth comes out.

On the other hand, do we really ever know the whole truth, I don't think so.


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So true. There has to more to this. It is indeed scary that a door would lock, that there was no emergency way to break in. We will see. Sad for those who had to go down with them

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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

On 3/25/2015 ROMARY 1 said:

I'm just wondering (again)........how do they know that it was a/the pilot banging on the door? Could it have been a male flight attendant? I don't quite understand..........

They said the two pilots had a conversation for a while and then one left the cockpit so they would have a good audio sample of his voice. When he's calling to get back in they would be able to tell electronically with a high percentage of accuracy that it was his voice.

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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

On 3/25/2015 shoekitty said:
On 3/25/2015 Sister Golden Hair said:

I think that it is just human nature to ask why something has happened. There is nothing wrong with discussing situations as long as someone doesn't take it for fact until the truth comes out.

On the other hand, do we really ever know the whole truth, I don't think so.


Sister

So true. There has to more to this. It is indeed scary that a door would lock, that there was no emergency way to break in. We will see. Sad for those who had to go down with them

That's for everyone's security since 9/11. Tonight on CNN they said that one person is never to be left alone in the cockpit so when the pilot left another crew member should have stepped into the cockpit.

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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

On 3/25/2015 Sister Golden Hair said:

Would you want to go to the crash site if your family member was on the plane?

No. They are not going to find a body intact. I wouldnt want to remember a loved one that way. At one point in my life, i wanted to work for the NTSB, the US group that investigates transportation accident so Im fasinated with disasters like this. Several years ago, i plane crashed in Europe and they families were allowed at the crash site. This man lost his children and his wife. He carried his daughters body out of the woods. She was one of the few that was not destoyed in the wreckage. The accident was due to an air traffic controllers mistake. The man whi lost his family kept pressing until he found out the name of that controller. One year later, the man went to the controllers home and killed him. Ive always wondered if finding his daughter sent him on that murderous course.
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My husband and I still talk about the plane that went down and was never found. I still wonder if someone took it. Such a strange event with no signs at all.

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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

Thanks, BlueCollarBabe. I now understand.

'More or less', 'Right or wrong', 'In general', and 'Just thinking out loud ' (as usual).
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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

On 3/25/2015 BlueCollarBabe said:
On 3/25/2015 shoekitty said:
On 3/25/2015 Sister Golden Hair said:

I think that it is just human nature to ask why something has happened. There is nothing wrong with discussing situations as long as someone doesn't take it for fact until the truth comes out.

On the other hand, do we really ever know the whole truth, I don't think so.


Sister

So true. There has to more to this. It is indeed scary that a door would lock, that there was no emergency way to break in. We will see. Sad for those who had to go down with them

That's for everyone's security since 9/11. Tonight on CNN they said that one person is never to be left alone in the cockpit so when the pilot left another crew member should have stepped into the cockpit.

Yikes! I forgot all about that!. But sure makes sense. Thanks for reminding me.

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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

Maybe another crew member (or someone) did step in.........?

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Re: Pilot Locked out of Cockpit on Fatal Flight....

the pilot trying to smash in the door to get in must have tried the emergency code , and it would have to have been overridden by the one in the cockpit to deny entry.
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Pilots 'involved in violent struggle before crash'

The investigation has now turned into a full-blown criminal enquiry today following revelations of a violent struggle on board, reports from France suggest.

Four specialists from Interpol have joined senior French detectives trying to work out why one of the pilots on the plane locked himself into the cockpit on Tuesday morning.

There were two airmen on board and they are said to have been fighting to open and close the cockpit door.

A chair is at one stage used to block the door, as the pilots shouted at each other in German, before the one outside ‘tried to smash the door down’.

The captain of the Airbus A320 had 6000 flying hours, while his co-pilot had just 600 and had only joined Germanwings, the Lufthansa affiliate, in 2013. It is not known which one was locked in the cockpit.

The revelations open up the possibility of a rogue pilot deliberately flying the plane into the French Alps and so murdering everyone on board.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/germanwings-plane-crash-live-updates-5401806

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