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[sfnative]

Thank goodness we have the ADA.  For those of us with diseases and disorders requiring medication which would test out in the "forbidden" classification, the ADA regulations have saved us from discrimination.

So, if you take a classification of drug for a disease or disorder that you know to be "on the list," make sure you have a hard copy letter from your physician on your person at all times indicating which medications you take and why, because you never know when you'll be drug tested and will also need this when applying for any position.

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I live in a city that is frought with phot shops: some blocks have 3-4 of them.  Look right, look left, look for the green.  And it's impossible to drive around and not see one or two at your beck and call.  Our unemployment and crime rates are rising.  Hmmmmm, wonder why.

The community in general supports this life style and doesn't seem to give a fig about rising crime rates.  If I didn't have family here, I'd be gone in a New York minute.

[goldensrbest]

Excuses, my wife left me, my husband left me , i hate my job, no one loves me ,i came from a bad family ,excuses is all that is, look at the kids growing up with all this drug abuse , style of living ,no morals.

[Moonchilde]

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@KathyM23 wrote:

I don't know anything about the benefits of medical mj other than it is being used to benefit and doesn't have the high effect.  My understanding of mj is that it just makes you mellow, not high.    From some of the posts it seems like a miracle drug for controlling extreme pain.  I wonder what component is in it that is so effective and why drug companies cannot use that chemical in prescription pain medicine formulas.  There is such a problem with addiction to oxycotan and other pain meds, it seems like re-formulating prescription drugs with the mj chemical would be an answer to that problem.  Effective and non-addictive. From the cost of prescription meds these drugs, it seems that drug company profit might be part of the answer to a change.

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@KathyM23, I have read that Big Pharma is working on incorporating cannabis into their offerings, but I haven't read any specifics. I'm not holding my breath for any time soon ;-)

Medical cannabis is formulated generally to provide greatest benefit in terms of pain relief, nausea relief, appetite booster, anti-spasmodic (MS, epilepsy) and insomnia, among other things - while keeping psychoactivity (the "high") to a minimum. When someone goes into a dispensary and asks for something to help their issue and says they would prefer as little psychoactivity as possible, that's what they get. Recreational marijuana is grown and cultivated to a different end - different strains, different mixture different potency.

Many people actively dislike a "high" (including me), and yes, make use of the mellow for sleep in particular. It's different strains of the plant. I stay away from the type I don't care for.

[Ms tyrion2]

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@goldensrbest wrote:

Seems logical that if one smokes weed,some people will try other drugs, some start out drinking beer and go on to hard liquor, if you do either and put others at risk, they should pay a price.

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Apples and oranges. Beer is alcohol. It's effects are exactly the same as whiskey. You don't "go on" to hard liquor. You can responsibly drink beer, wine, whiskey , vodka or any other alcohol.

MJ  doesn't have the same properties or effects as heroin, cocaine or prescription opioids. MJ can be used responsibly. 

[JaneMarple]

I live in Massachusetts and the residents voted yes for recreational use of pot last November. Meanwhile the opiate drug use and over dose deaths have continued to rise along with the distribution  of pills.

Obituaries in the newspapers have began to disclose that a person has died of an overdose, car accidents where I live due to heroin are an everyday occurrence. One case last week just a short distance away from the hospital where the driver took down a utility pole (he died). Another case where a woman charged at a police officer with a knife while being topless. Before the cops had caught up with her she had been waving the knife out her window while driving. Neither case was due to marijuana!

[Ms tyrion2]

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@sfnative wrote:

Thank goodness we have the ADA.  For those of us with diseases and disorders requiring medication which would test out in the "forbidden" classification, the ADA regulations have saved us from discrimination.

So, if you take a classification of drug for a disease or disorder that you know to be "on the list," make sure you have a hard copy letter from your physician on your person at all times indicating which medications you take and why, because you never know when you'll be drug tested and will also need this when applying for any position.

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I live in a city that is frought with phot shops: some blocks have 3-4 of them.  Look right, look left, look for the green.  And it's impossible to drive around and not see one or two at your beck and call.  Our unemployment and crime rates are rising.  Hmmmmm, wonder why.

The community in general supports this life style and doesn't seem to give a fig about rising crime rates.  If I didn't have family here, I'd be gone in a New York minute.

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Really?

Thank goodness for the prescription opioids that can do horrendous damage if used to excess, but the demon MJ is the downfall of society?

Do you realize how hypocritical that is?

[Moonchilde]

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@Ms tyrion2 wrote:

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@goldensrbest wrote:

Seems logical that if one smokes weed,some people will try other drugs, some start out drinking beer and go on to hard liquor, if you do either and put others at risk, they should pay a price.

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Apples and oranges. Beer is alcohol. It's effects are exactly the same as whiskey. You don't "go on" to hard liquor. You can responsibly drink beer, wine, whiskey , vodka or any other alcohol.

MJ  doesn't have the same properties or effects as heroin, cocaine or prescription opioids. MJ can be used responsibly. 

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Yep. "Some" people have a physical and/or emotional predilection to become addicted to things - including gambling, s*x, or over-buying on QVC. But it's not a foregone conclusion that "some" means every/all or most people do. Why assume that every person who drinks a beer or glass of wine will move to uncontrolled guzzling of liters of Scotch, vodka, etc? Why assume that every medical cannabis user will go straight to mainlining heroin and armed robbery?

Alarmist. Silly.

[Moonchilde]

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@Ms tyrion2 wrote:

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@sfnative wrote:

Thank goodness we have the ADA.  For those of us with diseases and disorders requiring medication which would test out in the "forbidden" classification, the ADA regulations have saved us from discrimination.

So, if you take a classification of drug for a disease or disorder that you know to be "on the list," make sure you have a hard copy letter from your physician on your person at all times indicating which medications you take and why, because you never know when you'll be drug tested and will also need this when applying for any position.

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I live in a city that is frought with phot shops: some blocks have 3-4 of them.  Look right, look left, look for the green.  And it's impossible to drive around and not see one or two at your beck and call.  Our unemployment and crime rates are rising.  Hmmmmm, wonder why.

The community in general supports this life style and doesn't seem to give a fig about rising crime rates.  If I didn't have family here, I'd be gone in a New York minute.

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Really?

Thank goodness for the prescription opioids that can do horrendous damage if used to excess, but the demon MJ is the downfall of society?

Do you realize how hypocritical that is?

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And there is a sizable contingent of society (not saying the poster is one of them) who don't actually believe people in pain should require opiates. I've seen plenty of "big deal, take some aspirin and suck it up, druggie" posts on these forums. It has certainly become the mantra of the govt and also our doctors. You can't need opiates, because I say you can't. You'll just have to deal. How? Who cares, it just can't be opiates...or medical cannabis either.

An ever-increasing number of pain specialists and oncologists are recommending medical cannabis use, with their blessing, instead of opiates.

[esmerelda]

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@Ms tyrion2 wrote:

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@sfnative wrote:

Thank goodness we have the ADA.  For those of us with diseases and disorders requiring medication which would test out in the "forbidden" classification, the ADA regulations have saved us from discrimination.

So, if you take a classification of drug for a disease or disorder that you know to be "on the list," make sure you have a hard copy letter from your physician on your person at all times indicating which medications you take and why, because you never know when you'll be drug tested and will also need this when applying for any position.

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I live in a city that is frought with phot shops: some blocks have 3-4 of them.  Look right, look left, look for the green.  And it's impossible to drive around and not see one or two at your beck and call.  Our unemployment and crime rates are rising.  Hmmmmm, wonder why.

The community in general supports this life style and doesn't seem to give a fig about rising crime rates.  If I didn't have family here, I'd be gone in a New York minute.

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Really?

Thank goodness for the prescription opioids that can do horrendous damage if used to excess, but the demon MJ is the downfall of society?

@Ms tyrion2 I haven't read the whole thread, but I didn't get that from @sfnative's post.

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[KathyM23]

@Moonchilde

You provided a lot of information re medical cannabis that I did not know and I'm sure many others do not know either.  I didn't know there were different strains and types of plants.  So those States legalizing cannabis for recreational use are legalizing the
"get high" factor, not just the medical advantages.  Makes me change my opinion regarding legalizing cannabis other than the type for medical purposes.  I didn't know there was a difference.