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07-07-2017 10:39 AM
@truffle wrote:
@QueenDanceALot wrote:
@Moonchilde wrote:
@QueenDanceALot wrote:Only nut cases ride buses?
Oy.
That wasn't even remotely what was said.
"Nuts ride the bus" isn't all that different. Especially in context with the rest of the post.
When mass transit is the norm like in NYC you have a wider cross section of residents using it. When it's not the norm, where everyone but a small segment of the local population owns a car, then it's quite different; it can be scary and can be dangerous for women riding a city bus.
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Good point.
In the small city near us (population about 50,000) there is a public bus system. And the only people who ride it are indigent. It is not a clean or happy experience to get on a bus in that town.
The buses only run on the major roads, some have to walk a long way to get to a bus stop.
The buses run only to certain locations and for limited hours. Your life, work, shopping and medical appointments had better fall into those routes, and those limited hours, or you can't get there.
Totally different than what those in the largest cities in the nation experience as public transportation.
07-07-2017 10:41 AM
@chiclet wrote:I have never lived anywhere where public transportation would be possible. You would need a car to get to it. I think I would love it if I did. I don't love driving and it would be a some exercise. Also it would seem great to be able to sit back and read while the driver gets me where I need to go.
When I used to ride the bus to work it would be about an hour ride so I would ask the driver to announce my stop and sit close to the front and go to sleep. When he called out my stop I always woke right up. A lot of people sleep on the bus.
07-07-2017 10:53 AM
we are also lucky in our county that we have a resource called COUNTYRIDE that will pick you up from your home to take you to grocery stores, shopping, medical appointments. it is for ages 60 plus, disabled people over the age of 21, and for people in more rural areas. i will say that our high taxes are put to good use in some areas.....
i see people at the grocery stores all the time who take taxis or a sedan service, get dropped off to shop, and then call them again to get picked up to go home.
i believe in many MAJOR cities there are a lot of options......i know the three major cities around me have many choices for those who need to get around.
07-07-2017 10:56 AM
Neither of my 2 kids own a car--they prefer public transit. I can't wait not to have to drive---I hate it!!! Cars are too expensive, to much upkeep not to mention the horrible drivers everywhere.
07-07-2017 10:57 AM
I still need to read the article itself but I would never rent out my car. That's one thing I never learned to share even with family members. People usually don't treat property that doesn't belong to them well. And I would love to know how the insurance works in case of an accident; god forbid they kill someone in your car. Guess who is getting sued. You.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole Uber thing since I was taught never to get into a stranger's car. The world has moved past me although I'm glad people are so trusting of each other these days.
Just the whole idea that people will take a stranger's car anytime that they have no idea is safe, insured, or not stolen but maybe won't take a public train/bus system that is constantly regulated for health and safety every day and monitored. I don't quite get the logic.
07-07-2017 11:14 AM
I saw this reported on NBC Nightly news. It was about the service called TURO which has been around for at least a couple of years. This is a service where people can sign up to rent their privately owned cars out to people that want to rent them.
It provides another avenue other than renting from the big car rental companies.
The story profiled a woman in the Washington D.C. area that had rented out her car for the past 3 years and stated it helped her pay off her car.
My take was that there are people in certain areas that don't want to own a car for whatever reason and this service allows them to rent quite a few different types of vehicles that aren't normally available via other car rental services and TURO typically doesn't cost as much as the other car rental services.
I remember thinking it was probably a pretty good idea for a car rental business. The company can offer car rental services without having the overhead of purchasing vehicles or the maintenance and upkeep of the vehicles. As a result they can pay people to rent their cars out and people can rent at better rates than established car rental companies.
The piece also had an analyst from CNBC stating that there were not large number of Americans moving to give up car ownership in favor of renting cars at this moment in time.
07-07-2017 12:06 PM
@Laura14 wrote:I still need to read the article itself but I would never rent out my car. That's one thing I never learned to share even with family members. People usually don't treat property that doesn't belong to them well. And I would love to know how the insurance works in case of an accident; god forbid they kill someone in your car. Guess who is getting sued. You.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole Uber thing since I was taught never to get into a stranger's car. The world has moved past me although I'm glad people are so trusting of each other these days.
Just the whole idea that people will take a stranger's car anytime that they have no idea is safe, insured, or not stolen but maybe won't take a public train/bus system that is constantly regulated for health and safety every day and monitored. I don't quite get the logic.
Exactly, at what I highlighted. I wouldn't put everything I own in jeopardy by letting a stranger drive my car.
07-07-2017 12:31 PM
@SaRina wrote:
@QueenDanceALot wrote:
@JaneMarple wrote:
@Lucky Dog wrote:For me, when I go grocery shopping, I usually have several bags. Don't know how I would manage that on a bus.
People in the big cities use folding shopping carts that they take on buses and trains @Lucky Dog
When I lived in NYC I walked to the markets. They were all right there, no need to take a bus to get my groceries.
@Exactly @QueenDanceALot. There are 5 supermarkets within walking distance of where I live, not to mention outdoor Farmers Markets in the spring and summer. The choices are outstanding, the convenience is great.
I am missing NYC now! I live in a "city" but it's the small city variety and while I can walk to get groceries if I need/want to, there are certainly not the options that were available to me when I lived in NY.
07-07-2017 12:34 PM
I can understand this being the norm for NYC/Boston and say Washington DC since they are so huge with too many cars and not enough parking and the traffic.
Smaller cities though I can see it being a bit of a hassle.
I know a few people who live in a smaller city with public transportation but the bus only runs certain hours so you have to try and schedule appt's to catch it and it quits at 5 pm so they have issues if their appt's run over.
Forget holidays and weekends - no transportation and they look for rides. To go out to the Plaza's for groceries they can only have three grocery plastic bags each and if you plan on doing your weekly shopping forget it. Especially with toilet paper and paper towel needs. To coordinate several trips can take several days as the shuttle runs 1.5 hour intervals and you have to make sure you are there and it is not full so it isn't all that great not to have vehicles ...especially if you are the one they rely on..so I totally understand what the OP is saying.
07-07-2017 12:43 PM
@Laura14 wrote:I still need to read the article itself but I would never rent out my car. That's one thing I never learned to share even with family members. People usually don't treat property that doesn't belong to them well. And I would love to know how the insurance works in case of an accident; god forbid they kill someone in your car. Guess who is getting sued. You.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole Uber thing since I was taught never to get into a stranger's car. The world has moved past me although I'm glad people are so trusting of each other these days.
Just the whole idea that people will take a stranger's car anytime that they have no idea is safe, insured, or not stolen but maybe won't take a public train/bus system that is constantly regulated for health and safety every day and monitored. I don't quite get the logic.
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@Laura14, out of curiosity I went to their website and looked it up. TURO provides $1 million in liability insurance which includes theft on your vehicle. In that case, the person renting their vehicle can make anywhere from 65-85% of the trip price. If people have their own commercial rental insurance they can waive the insurance coverage and make 90%. The amount you make on renting your car depends of the year and make & overall market value of the car.
They source a $20,000 market value car rented out for 15 days/month would earn $6, 500/year.
I am not interested, but not a totally bad deal for those that want to do it.
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