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[apple1964]

On 7/29/2014 beastielove said:

On 7/29/2014 CatLover2 said:

She wasn't at home when this happened she was at the peoples house that she takes care of and she was telling me and another friend about it. She does pop her dog one if he gets too rowdy she's always saying Roscoe you're going to get a whipping.

"Popping" the dog and telling him that he's going to get a whipping (and I have no doubt that he does get whipped ) is PURE ANIMAL ABUSE!!!!

That poor dog should be taken away from this heinous woman ASAP and placed in a loving home because clearly he isn't in one now!

I know that a few other posters have suggested that you report this matter to the proper authorities. Of course, that's your choice. If it were me I'd report her in a heartbeat (the He** with the friendship) and find a way to bring precious Roscoe into my house.

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All of my children have paws =^..^=

Beastie Catlover2, I agree with you totally and spraying a poor cat with water OMG I have no words for that! It is wrong on so many levels.... Oh Lord!

[CrazyDaisy]

Adoreqvc - It seems like you are talking about guard and attack dogs rather than family pets. You should be able to take something away from your dog including food. You should be able to play with them and their toys. Of course you will be able to find examples of "dogs gone bad" just as you can find examples of what people do to each other. There are millions of dogs in homes, sadly some are abused and suffer in silence.

Education should be about positive reinforcement methods to have a positive relationship with your dog. Domination, "pack leader" methods are best saved for professionals training dogs for a specific purpose not a family pet.

[adoreqvc]

Read the thread again as it does not only refer to guard dogs, it refers to family pets as well, and the mauling and fatalities also caused by family pets.

I know exactly how to handle my trained guard dogs, but people who have pets are sometimes clueless and think its cute to irritate and annoy an animal.

A little common sense goes a long way, and nevertheless what I posted stands as is, and was posted as an educational tool with safety guidelines for anyone having pets.

BTW according to various animal professionals, veterinarians, dog trainers, and animal behavioral consultants the human being is the dominant leader, and his dog or dogs look to him as the leader of the pack.

On 7/30/2014 CrazyDaisy said:

Adoreqvc - It seems like you are talking about guard and attack dogs rather than family pets. You should be able to take something away from your dog including food. You should be able to play with them and their toys. Of course you will be able to find examples of "dogs gone bad" just as you can find examples of what people do to each other. There are millions of dogs in homes, sadly some are abused and suffer in silence.

Education should be about positive reinforcement methods to have a positive relationship with your dog. Domination, "pack leader" methods are best saved for professionals training dogs for a specific purpose not a family pet.

[CrazyDaisy]

On 7/30/2014 adoreqvc said:

Read the thread again as it does not only refer to guard dogs, it refers to family pets as well, and the mauling and fatalities also caused by family pets.

I know exactly how to handle my trained guard dogs, but people who have pets are sometimes clueless and think its cute to irritate and annoy an animal.

A little common sense goes a long way, and nevertheless what I posted stands as is, and was posted as an educational tool with safety guidelines for anyone having pets.

BTW according to various animal professionals, veterinarians, dog trainers, and animal behavioral consultants the human being is the dominant leader, and his dog or dogs look to him as the leader of the pack.

On 7/30/2014 CrazyDaisy said:

Adoreqvc - It seems like you are talking about guard and attack dogs rather than family pets. You should be able to take something away from your dog including food. You should be able to play with them and their toys. Of course you will be able to find examples of "dogs gone bad" just as you can find examples of what people do to each other. There are millions of dogs in homes, sadly some are abused and suffer in silence.

Education should be about positive reinforcement methods to have a positive relationship with your dog. Domination, "pack leader" methods are best saved for professionals training dogs for a specific purpose not a family pet.

Tried to give you the benefit of a doubt. Got you now. You are someone who I would never let anywhere near my dog.

Good Luck

[adoreqvc]

Whats the matter CrazyDaisy?

Does the truth I posted irritate you?

CrazyDaisy I did not ask for nor require anything from you, let alone 'Your benefit of the doubt".

So at least you know all about the QVC ignore button, if nothing else about proper canine guidelines and handling.

Educate yourself CrazyDaisy, and now it is quite obvious why you picked your nic.

Please save the your "Good luck for yourself, because it is evident you need it".

Your repeated replies to me are completely incorrect, and evidently you do not like to read the truth, so now I placed you on permanent ignore because there is no need to continue responding to your nonsense.

CrazyDaisy the information I provided is a great educational tool....but unfortunately lost on you, and so is the fact that we all have the right to post our views and opinions with supporting true facts, which cannot be disputed when links are supplied, especially many internet links from canine professionals.

7/30/2014 CrazyDaisy said:

On 7/30/2014 adoreqvc said:

Read the thread again as it does not only refer to guard dogs, it refers to family pets as well, and the mauling and fatalities also caused by family pets.

I know exactly how to handle my trained guard dogs, but people who have pets are sometimes clueless and think its cute to irritate and annoy an animal.

A little common sense goes a long way, and nevertheless what I posted stands as is, and was posted as an educational tool with safety guidelines for anyone having pets.

BTW according to various animal professionals, veterinarians, dog trainers, and animal behavioral consultants the human being is the dominant leader, and his dog or dogs look to him as the leader of the pack.

On 7/30/2014 CrazyDaisy said:

Adoreqvc - It seems like you are talking about guard and attack dogs rather than family pets. You should be able to take something away from your dog including food. You should be able to play with them and their toys. Of course you will be able to find examples of "dogs gone bad" just as you can find examples of what people do to each other. There are millions of dogs in homes, sadly some are abused and suffer in silence.

Education should be about positive reinforcement methods to have a positive relationship with your dog. Domination, "pack leader" methods are best saved for professionals training dogs for a specific purpose not a family pet.

Tried to give you the benefit of a doubt. Got you now. You are someone who I would never let anywhere near my dog.

Good Luck

[151949]

Often when people talk about hitting a dog or a child there is a vast difference between one light smack and a beating. Apparently, this person in the OPs post was beating her dog. However, since they do not speak or understand English when you say NO you must communicate to them what you are saying NO about - a tap on the snout to a barking dog for example. I had a pup who loved to chew wires and the only way I could break her of it before she got electrocuted was a smack on the snout with a firm NO. My smack on the nose was way less painful than if she would have bit into that cord and gotten shocked. Same with running into the street - getting hit by a car is much more painful than the smack on the bum to learn not to do that. I am interested to hear how you all would stop a dog from chewing electric cords or running into the street.

[Jeremiah 2911]

On 7/31/2014 happy housewife said:

Often when people talk about hitting a dog or a child there is a vast difference between one light smack and a beating. Apparently, this person in the OPs post was beating her dog. However, since they do not speak or understand English when you say NO you must communicate to them what you are saying NO about - a tap on the snout to a barking dog for example. I had a pup who loved to chew wires and the only way I could break her of it before she got electrocuted was a smack on the snout with a firm NO. My smack on the nose was way less painful than if she would have bit into that cord and gotten shocked. Same with running into the street - getting hit by a car is much more painful than the smack on the bum to learn not to do that. I am interested to hear how you all would stop a dog from chewing electric cords or running into the street.

Hitting the dog on the snout is animal abuse. I recall watching people hit their dogs on the snout with a rolled up newspaper. This was done out of ignorance of how to properly train a dog.

There are books, videos and dog training classes where one can learn how to properly train a dog (or cat) with POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT training techniques.

There is no excuse for hitting a pet when there are so many ways to educate one's self on how to properly train a dog.

As you have requested, here are some tips on how to stop a dog from chewing cords and from running into the street:

1. It would be better to CRATE the dog while you are not at home to supervise it.

2. Tell the dog "No" in a monotone voice, gently remove the dog from the cord area and give it a chew toy to enjoy. When the dog chews on the chew toy, praise the dog to reinforce his good behavior.

3. Or, simply place the cords inside a CORD PROTECTOR which costs about $20.

4. Using a LEASH on a dog prevents it from running into the street.

5. There are harm-free, environmentally & dog/cat safe deterrents that can be sprayed in areas where you want to discourage the dog from being in. One of them is FOUR PAWS KEEP-OFF spray.

NOTE: Never use BITTER APPLE (or any other harmful chemical spray) as this is a very caustic chemical which will cause harm to the dog's mouth & nasal passages and will also cause the dog severe emotional distress that he may never fully recover from.

It is NEVER appropriate to hit a pet. If you have hit (or are currently hitting your pet) because you thought that it was the only way to correct the pets behavior, stop hitting your pet immediately. Forgive yourself for not knowing how to properly train your pet and immediately begin to learn and apply training techniques that will not harm your pet.

Learn how to train your pet with POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT training techniques. POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT TRAINING uses the positive, REWARD system to reinforce good behavior.

It's never too late to educate one's self on how to properly train a pet. Find books at AMAZON.com on POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT DOG TRAINING and view videos online. Find POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT dog training classes in your area and attend them with your dog.

You will be much happier with yourself -- and with the behavior of your dog if you learn how to properly train your dog.

"A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast."

Proverbs 12 :10

[depglass]

Any ""punishment"" that doesn't take place immediately after the incident is totally wasted. So beating this dog was doubly bad. Poor dog doesn't have a clue what it did wrong.

[Marienkaefer2]

This is just so wrong on so many levels. Popping and smacking?

As stated, there are far better ways to train a pet. In my experience, people who strike their animals lack the patience for how they should be taught.

[beastielove]

On 7/31/2014 happy housewife said:

Often when people talk about hitting a dog or a child there is a vast difference between one light smack and a beating. Apparently, this person in the OPs post was beating her dog. However, since they do not speak or understand English when you say NO you must communicate to them what you are saying NO about - a tap on the snout to a barking dog for example. I had a pup who loved to chew wires and the only way I could break her of it before she got electrocuted was a smack on the snout with a firm NO. My smack on the nose was way less painful than if she would have bit into that cord and gotten shocked. Same with running into the street - getting hit by a car is much more painful than the smack on the bum to learn not to do that. I am interested to hear how you all would stop a dog from chewing electric cords or running into the street.

I,like Jeremiah,was absolutely appalled when I read your post and I agree with everything that she wrote in her response to you (post #36).

You're just as guilty of animal abuse (smacking equals hitting )same as that heinous, vile woman who beat that poor dog..and who, I'm sure, is still "popping" him! I know that I can't but I'd sure love to "pop" her so that she could feel the same pain that she's inflicting on her dog!

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All of my children have paws =^..^=