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[apple1964]

On 7/29/2014 RedConvertibleGirl said:

This is a friend of yours that did this? I would give them a piece of my mind and end our friendship right on the spot. I don't care how long we'd been friends or if we were good friends. I simply refuse to be around people like that. Period. And I would consider reporting them also. Of course I'd probably want to scoop up the dog and take him home with me and get him away from that person since they obviously can't control their anger.

I agree that women is a moron...I am glad she did not do this in front of me! Call animal control and help this poor dog.

[okBlonde]

I would no longer be friends with her, and I would also report her for abuse.

[candys mine]

Anyone who beats an animal in order to make it ""Understand"" is not intelligent enough themselves to be around them. If that person hit the dog when it came back to them they are foolish. If you'd care to demonstrate it to them ask your friend to hold out their hand... then SLAP it. Then demand that they hold out their hand to you again. IF THEY won't do it Point out to them THAT is what they demanded their poor animal to do. They shouldn't be amazed if that dog eludes them to avoid being hit rather than coming to heel. If they continue to beat on that dog call animal rescue. That dog may have to go through life a victim of abuse. It's a true saying to ""Judge a man by how he treats his animals."" Because it never does stop just with them.

[Jeremiah 2911]

Punishing a pet by hitting or by spraying water in it's face is animal abuse.

Since your friend openly admitted to you that she spanked (HIT) the dog, I think it would be good if you would take the opportunity to explain to her that punishing and/or hitting pets is considered animal abuse.

Don't scold her or she'll get angry and tune you out. Talk to her with respect and she just might hear you out.

Encourage her to train her dog using POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT training techniques. Tell her that there are several books on Amazon that teach this non-punishment, pro-reward dog training technique and there are several youtube videos that offer tips on Positive Reinforcement training as well.

Concerning spraying a cat in the face with water: This is harmful to cats as it can cause Upper Respiratory Infections in cats. Spraying a cat with water will also result in a negative, fearful & antagonistic relationship with your cat. Cats should never be sprayed with water. There are other harm-free deterrents that are better for training cats.

[CrazyDaisy]

The problem is that there are still many so called experts who still promote these domination, pack leader, corporal punishment methods. When they do not get the desired behaviors, they may be told they need to be more in authority, harsher and be the leader, often leading to taking things to far. I was recently at a dog event and have never seen so many prong collars in one place. One training center had there students there, explaining the large number of prong collars.

Education is often the answer rather than reporting them. Not sure what animal control can do without witnessing the incident or having witnesses actually coming forward.

[kcladyz]

I do not like it s well. I understand a light spank put painfully hitting is out of line plus un less you do it the second of the offence the pet will not know why you are doing it

[beastielove]

On 7/29/2014 CatLover2 said:

She wasn't at home when this happened she was at the peoples house that she takes care of and she was telling me and another friend about it. She does pop her dog one if he gets too rowdy she's always saying Roscoe you're going to get a whipping.

"Popping" the dog and telling him that he's going to get a whipping (and I have no doubt that he does get whipped ) is PURE ANIMAL ABUSE!!!!

That poor dog should be taken away from this heinous woman ASAP and placed in a loving home because clearly he isn't in one now!

I know that a few other posters have suggested that you report this matter to the proper authorities. Of course, that's your choice. If it were me I'd report her in a heartbeat (the He** with the friendship) and find a way to bring precious Roscoe into my house.

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All of my children have paws =^..^=

[dooBdoo]

I wanted to add to the other comments about spraying cats with water in an attempt to change their behavior.

Not only is it cruel, it's also ineffective.

Most animal behaviorists will tell you it doesn't teach them to avoid the place or the activity... it actually teaches them to fear the spray bottle and also to fear you.

[adoreqvc]

The information below is given as an educational effort because knowledge is power, and that knowledge can save others, as well as save our treasured beloved pets.

Haddie you posted this underneath my original post:

I can not believe people could abuse animals like this. We have a sweet dog that had been abused as a puppy and she still hides at any raised voice. But, I have to say this is hilarious

I am glad you found my original post to be hilarious Haddie....well I doubt you would be laughing if you experienced what others have in the internet postings I included below.....Ignorance is no excuse for blatant stupidity, because intentional stupidity invites attacks and death, but knowledge saves lives and cruelty as well as various forms of abuse to animals.

I only report what I know are proven well known publicized facts.

I have had pets including small and large breeds of different dogs for over 50 years. I grew up with large breeds and early on was taught that abused dogs can kill their owners. I also learned early on to place food down and walk away and not go back until the dog was no where near the food bowl. I also learned not to ever try to take anything away from a dog's mouth, or from a dog even if it is a play toy.

I was also warned to always adhere to safe handling rules by Guard Dog Professional trainers, when I attended pro education, training, handling, classes for both of my doberman guard dogs. (Because any dog can kill and maim).

Just know any living creature is capable of killing any abuser, including an abusive owner. It is not a premeditated action, it is called canine aggression and is a natural learned instinct for self preservation which is survival of the fittest.

As noted below dogs attack and kill for various reasons, including genetic inbreeding which may not be visible until that attack mode behavior is enacted and then the dog is evaluated for a variety of known issues.

Also as a responsible dog owner I learned early on to never say never........”My dog would never do that”........”My dog would never hurt anyone”.....”My dog does not bite”.......”You can pet my dog he/she will not harm you". “You can feed my dog from your hand”. 'My dog does not need a leash or harness".

“No human being really knows what damage their sweet lovable dog can or will do, because even the most loving docile pets can momentarily snap for any reason, or no reason or provocation at all, and ultimately become a threat to their owners and others......so never say never.

“If people truly love their pets it is their job to safeguard them well from all dangerous non predictable situations if at all possible”.

Below is a small listing of internet information relative to dog abuse from owners and their deaths, dogs and owner deaths without provocation, various dog attacks, various dog abuse situations, how to safeguard against dog attacks, why dogs kill , wolf hybrid dog kills and eats owners sleeping son, etc.

Abused Dog kills owner:

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Abused-dog-kills-owner-20110612?Bangkok

A golden retriever mauled its Thai master to death after allegedly enduring years of abuse, media reports said on Sunday. Mana Tesrit, 51, died in hospital on Saturday after being savaged by his three-year-old dog at his home in Sattahip district of Chonburi province, 120 kilometres east of Bangkok, The Nation newspaper reported. Mana's wife Sompong Rodkhlam told police that the dog, named Peter, may have attacked her husband because he had kicked and abused it since it was a puppy.

Fatal Dog Attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States?http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk...

Dogs that kill are a terrible tragedy – but it’s humans to blame, not our pets.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/146782/woman_mauled_to_death_by

Woman Mauled to Death by Her Pet Bullmastiff Is Chilling Reminder of the Truth About ALL Dog. The couple's new dog, who weighed about 140 pounds, had attacked her neck and killed her. This story is a very sad one because Brown clearly loved dogs and never could have imagined being killed by one. It's downright horrifying to think a beloved pet could turn on us like this. But it's also a grim reminder that no matter how well we think we know our dogs, they are still animals capable of great hurt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7212727.stm

Dog kills owner in horror attack
A 78-year-old man has died hours after being mauled by his Rottweiler dog as he lay on an east London street.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/dawn-brown-killed-by-family-dog-mastiff-illinois_n_2139793....

Dawn Brown Killed By Family Dog, Husband Comes Home To Find Her Dead In Illinois

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk

Dog rips head off family pet in attack like something from a horror film.

http://dogbitelaw.com/dog-bite-statistics/the-breeds-most-likely-to-kill.html

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=491710-wolf-hybrid-hybred-kills-eats-owners-sleeping-...

Wolf Hybrid (Hybred) kills, eats owner's sleeping son

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/06/29/pair-pleads-not-guilty-in-childs-mauling-death/

<h1 class="title">Attorney: No Proof Dog Who Mauled Boy Was Wolf Hybrid</h1>

The Breeds Most Likely to Kill

http://www.dogsbite.org/legislating-dangerous-dogs-state-by-state.php?gclid=CjwKEAjwjN2eBRDbyPWl0JLY...

(From dogbites.org)
In the 9-year period from 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans and accounted for 62% of the total recorded deaths (283). Combined, pit bulls and Rottweilers accounted for 74% of these deaths.

http://www.friendsofthedog.co.za/why-a-dog-would-kill-its-owner.html

WHY A DOG WOULD KILL ITS OWNER
A dog that kills a person is a build up over a lengthy period of time and finally triggered by human postures or sounds which simulates negative reinforcements of the past; the last straw that broke the camel’s back. There is no such thing as “the dog attacked for no reason”; there is always a reason, or reasons.

Any dog without appropriate socialization with ignorant owners in an unstimulating environment is the breeding ground for canine “criminals”.

I believe there is enough information above to really educate, especially anyone still in denial or believing my original post was humorous, , and it is up to humans to safeguard their animals at all times.

"As loving pet owners and human beings we should all acquire the necessary wisdom, knowledge, and power to protect our pets because we are their leader and they look to us for their safe survival, respect, love, nurturing, offering food and liquids, offering shelter against the elements, offering companionship, and leadership".

“All these above attributes go hand in hand, and if properly loved protected and cared for our pets will lay down their lives to defend us, and give us years of devoted respect, love, companionship, protection, and joy”.

[apple1964]

This thread makes me angry, sick to my stomach and sad. Animals have nothing to protect themselves from being beaten. WE NEED TO BE THERE VOICE! And if she does it outside where people can see her you can imagine what she does inside her home behind closed doors. Hitting and abusing a animal is not discipline. I use a firm voice and commands and it works well for my family. And my animals!