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[dooBdoo]

On 8/10/2014 cater said:

I have to agree with Hckynut, I keep telling my family they should have went to be TV weather people. They can say what they want and tell you that a storm is coming and there is no way you are going to be missed getting either rain or snow. Then the time comes and there is no rain or snow within miles of where we live and they still are able to collect a paycheck. Then some times they start a week ahead and get everyone all worked up about what is coming their way days on end and when the day finally comes when all he-- was to break loose NOTHING. In the mean time people are running around trying to get things into their homes to be prepared. Every time they start this up getting everyone riled up my girl friend will say "its going to miss us" 9 times out of 10 she is correct.

Hi, cater. Truth be told, some of the tv weather folks did complete advanced studies to be meteorologists, and it's a science as well as an art. And even though they can't possibly be right all the time, as someone who's experienced a direct hit from one tornado (and a few months later, a tornado that cleaned off the hill adjacent to us), I'm grateful for the warnings. In all fairness, I'd much rather say they told me to prepare and it turned out not to be needed than to say my house was destroyed and I received no warnings. They're trying to protect us as best they can.

[dooBdoo]

On 8/10/2014 herekitty_kitty said:

On 8/10/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/10/2014 hckynut said:

All the "so-called experts" said this would be the hottest summer since BC. I am still waiting and we are nearing half way through August. Right now it is 76 degrees here in our city and we haven't had what I consider even comes close to some of the summers in which I have lived here in this same city.

I will just look out my widow this winter/maybe put my finger out to see which way the wind is blowing and I will probably be close to as accurate as most of the prognosticators come our winter weather.

Some of the "so-called experts" I heard are some that keep saying with my view I must belong to the flat earth society. I will go along with what Professor Les Woodcock says about these things and he was a prognosticator for many NASA launches and none of them failed.

John, perhaps I can explain something for you. When the "so called experts" are talking about the hottest weather, they don't mean every spot in the entire world, or even every spot in America.

So no, your finger test is not as accurate as those experts.

Here's just one reference for you as to what they're talking about:

WORLD BREAKS TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE AFTER HOTTEST MAY

Last month's average global temperature was 16.2C, 0.7C higher than 20th-century average, says NOAA

The globe is on a hot streak, setting a heat record in June after it also broke the record for May.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) announced on Monday that last month's average global temperature was 16.2C (61.2F), which is 0.7C higher than the 20th-century average. It beat 2010's record by one-twentieth of a degree.

The NOAA's climate monitoring chief, Derek Arndt, said the record was driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans.

Heat records were broken on every continent apart from Antarctica, especially in New Zealand, northern South America, Greenland, central Africa and southern Asia.

true

Global temperature records go back to 1880 and June was the 352nd hotter-than-average month in a row.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/world-breaks-temperature-record-june-hottest-may

your post stands repeating.

Yes, it does.

[herekitty_kitty]

On 8/10/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/10/2014 herekitty_kitty said:

On 8/10/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/10/2014 hckynut said:

All the "so-called experts" said this would be the hottest summer since BC. I am still waiting and we are nearing half way through August. Right now it is 76 degrees here in our city and we haven't had what I consider even comes close to some of the summers in which I have lived here in this same city.

I will just look out my widow this winter/maybe put my finger out to see which way the wind is blowing and I will probably be close to as accurate as most of the prognosticators come our winter weather.

Some of the "so-called experts" I heard are some that keep saying with my view I must belong to the flat earth society. I will go along with what Professor Les Woodcock says about these things and he was a prognosticator for many NASA launches and none of them failed.

John, perhaps I can explain something for you. When the "so called experts" are talking about the hottest weather, they don't mean every spot in the entire world, or even every spot in America.

So no, your finger test is not as accurate as those experts.

Here's just one reference for you as to what they're talking about:

WORLD BREAKS TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE AFTER HOTTEST MAY

Last month's average global temperature was 16.2C, 0.7C higher than 20th-century average, says NOAA

The globe is on a hot streak, setting a heat record in June after it also broke the record for May.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) announced on Monday that last month's average global temperature was 16.2C (61.2F), which is 0.7C higher than the 20th-century average. It beat 2010's record by one-twentieth of a degree.

The NOAA's climate monitoring chief, Derek Arndt, said the record was driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans.

Heat records were broken on every continent apart from Antarctica, especially in New Zealand, northern South America, Greenland, central Africa and southern Asia.

true

Global temperature records go back to 1880 and June was the 352nd hotter-than-average month in a row.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/world-breaks-temperature-record-june-hottest-may

your post stands repeating.

Thanks, I think this was the crux of it:

"The NOAA's climate monitoring chief, Derek Arndt, said the record was driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans."

there will always be those who refuse to believe there is a problem called climate change. They even had to change the name from global warming because there are naysayers who refuse to do any research and took the term literally. It was mindboggling to hear people say, "it's not hot here, it is cooler than it has been." I do believe we are heading for a change that we are not ready for. From freezing to hot drought.

[dooBdoo]

On 8/10/2014 herekitty_kitty said:

On 8/10/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/10/2014 herekitty_kitty said:

On 8/10/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/10/2014 hckynut said:

All the "so-called experts" said this would be the hottest summer since BC. I am still waiting and we are nearing half way through August. Right now it is 76 degrees here in our city and we haven't had what I consider even comes close to some of the summers in which I have lived here in this same city.

I will just look out my widow this winter/maybe put my finger out to see which way the wind is blowing and I will probably be close to as accurate as most of the prognosticators come our winter weather.

Some of the "so-called experts" I heard are some that keep saying with my view I must belong to the flat earth society. I will go along with what Professor Les Woodcock says about these things and he was a prognosticator for many NASA launches and none of them failed.

John, perhaps I can explain something for you. When the "so called experts" are talking about the hottest weather, they don't mean every spot in the entire world, or even every spot in America.

So no, your finger test is not as accurate as those experts.

Here's just one reference for you as to what they're talking about:

WORLD BREAKS TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE AFTER HOTTEST MAY

Last month's average global temperature was 16.2C, 0.7C higher than 20th-century average, says NOAA

The globe is on a hot streak, setting a heat record in June after it also broke the record for May.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) announced on Monday that last month's average global temperature was 16.2C (61.2F), which is 0.7C higher than the 20th-century average. It beat 2010's record by one-twentieth of a degree.

The NOAA's climate monitoring chief, Derek Arndt, said the record was driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans.

Heat records were broken on every continent apart from Antarctica, especially in New Zealand, northern South America, Greenland, central Africa and southern Asia.

true

Global temperature records go back to 1880 and June was the 352nd hotter-than-average month in a row.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/world-breaks-temperature-record-june-hottest-may

your post stands repeating.

Thanks, I think this was the crux of it:

"The NOAA's climate monitoring chief, Derek Arndt, said the record was driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans."

there will always be those who refuse to believe there is a problem called climate change. They even had to change the name from global warming because there are naysayers who refuse to do any research and took the term literally. It was mindboggling to hear people say, "it's not hot here, it is cooler than it has been." I do believe we are heading for a change that we are not ready for. From freezing to hot drought.

I agree completely, kitty. The unprecedented extremes and patterns are evidence that the scientists did and do know what they're talking about. The grievous error was when some people chose to try and make this a political issue instead of the scientific, substantive, and frightening issue it really is.

[herekitty_kitty]

On 8/10/2014 dooBdoo said:

On 8/10/2014 herekitty_kitty said:

On 8/10/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/10/2014 herekitty_kitty said:

On 8/10/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/10/2014 hckynut said:

All the "so-called experts" said this would be the hottest summer since BC. I am still waiting and we are nearing half way through August. Right now it is 76 degrees here in our city and we haven't had what I consider even comes close to some of the summers in which I have lived here in this same city.

I will just look out my widow this winter/maybe put my finger out to see which way the wind is blowing and I will probably be close to as accurate as most of the prognosticators come our winter weather.

Some of the "so-called experts" I heard are some that keep saying with my view I must belong to the flat earth society. I will go along with what Professor Les Woodcock says about these things and he was a prognosticator for many NASA launches and none of them failed.

John, perhaps I can explain something for you. When the "so called experts" are talking about the hottest weather, they don't mean every spot in the entire world, or even every spot in America.

So no, your finger test is not as accurate as those experts.

Here's just one reference for you as to what they're talking about:

WORLD BREAKS TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE AFTER HOTTEST MAY

Last month's average global temperature was 16.2C, 0.7C higher than 20th-century average, says NOAA

The globe is on a hot streak, setting a heat record in June after it also broke the record for May.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) announced on Monday that last month's average global temperature was 16.2C (61.2F), which is 0.7C higher than the 20th-century average. It beat 2010's record by one-twentieth of a degree.

The NOAA's climate monitoring chief, Derek Arndt, said the record was driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans.

Heat records were broken on every continent apart from Antarctica, especially in New Zealand, northern South America, Greenland, central Africa and southern Asia.

true

Global temperature records go back to 1880 and June was the 352nd hotter-than-average month in a row.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/world-breaks-temperature-record-june-hottest-may

your post stands repeating.

Thanks, I think this was the crux of it:

"The NOAA's climate monitoring chief, Derek Arndt, said the record was driven by unusually hot oceans, especially the Pacific and Indian oceans."

there will always be those who refuse to believe there is a problem called climate change. They even had to change the name from global warming because there are naysayers who refuse to do any research and took the term literally. It was mindboggling to hear people say, "it's not hot here, it is cooler than it has been." I do believe we are heading for a change that we are not ready for. From freezing to hot drought.

I agree completely, kitty. The unprecedented extremes and patterns are evidence that the scientists did and do know what they were talking about. The grievous error was when some people chose to try and make this a political issue instead of the scientific, substantive, and frightening issue it really is.

True, doobdoo.

Man shows his or her arrogance when you hear them say "it's cool where they live and the temps have not been cooler this summer" they forget there is a whole wide world not just one little corner on earth. Sad.

[september]

On 8/10/2014 Buck-i-Nana said:

On 8/9/2014 september said:

And when the OP talks about "the North"... it seems she's only talking about the "Northeast". There are other northern areas of this country...the Northwest, and the Northern Central states.

Thanks for the map, IlikeShade...it might be handy to some people who aren't aware that there are states west of the Mississippi.

Oh for heaven's sake, let go of the grudge would ya!!!

The majority of the northern states, according to that map that IlikeShade posted showed colder.

Her post peaked some interest and sent others looking for more info, so why villainize her? Most people post regarding what will specifically affect them.

What is this "grudge" you mention? I hold no grudges. It's very common on this board, or any board, to ask posters to state which part of the country they live in, when they start posts about the weather.

[gazelle77]

The Earth is always changing.....it was here long before man....it will be here long after man is gone.... A few years in Earth time Man is not going to cause the death of the Earth....hardly possible. We are not that important or powerful. We are nothing in the scheme of things. That is what extinction is.

[azterry!]

On 8/10/2014 gazelle77 said: The Earth is always changing.....it was here long before man....it will be here long after man is gone.... A few years in Earth time Man is not going to cause the death of the Earth....hardly possible. We are not that important or powerful. We are nothing in the scheme of things. That is what extinction is.

yes, gazelle. the earth will still be here. the big question is will it be habitable by man or animal. that's the part of the equation you've forgotten and that's the part of the equation that is directly influenced by man.

[gazelle77]

On 8/10/2014 azterry! said:

On 8/10/2014 gazelle77 said: The Earth is always changing.....it was here long before man....it will be here long after man is gone.... A few years in Earth time Man is not going to cause the death of the Earth....hardly possible. We are not that important or powerful. We are nothing in the scheme of things. That is what extinction is.

yes, gazelle. the earth will still be here. the big question is will it be habitable by man or animal. that's the part of the equation you've forgotten and that's the part of the equation that is directly influenced by man.

I believe you are wrong.

[azterry!]

On 8/10/2014 gazelle77 said:

On 8/10/2014 azterry! said:

On 8/10/2014 gazelle77 said: The Earth is always changing.....it was here long before man....it will be here long after man is gone.... A few years in Earth time Man is not going to cause the death of the Earth....hardly possible. We are not that important or powerful. We are nothing in the scheme of things. That is what extinction is.

yes, gazelle. the earth will still be here. the big question is will it be habitable by man or animal. that's the part of the equation you've forgotten and that's the part of the equation that is directly influenced by man.

I believe you are wrong.

that's fine.You're entitled to your opinion.

I do know that 99% of the scientific community sees it the way I've described and that's good enough for me.

Do you have any data to support your view?