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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:
@ID2 wrote:Buy from your local farmers. I haven't bought any of my produce, fruit, meat , pork or chicken from a grocery store in many, many years! There's never a shortage and its nothing but PURE food. Do a little research and take a visit to your locals, help the little guy while you're at it.
You do know that there are many people in this country who don't have local farms or farmers or have no way to access them if they do? Do a little research?- that's rather insulting.
The entire premise of this post, that there isn't a shortage where the OP shops (in NYC)-same thing applies. In this country of all places, you cannot have what ends up being a myopic view. I don't mean that as an insult, it just is myopic to assume that everyone's situation is like yours. In a huge country, with countless variable factors.
@Greeneyedlady21 Agree... We're all having different experiences now days and it seems that months into this no one is making any effort at all to coordinate the availability of food and other essentials, so that some areas have more than they need and other areas have far less than they need... And I'm sorry, but while all perspectives and ideas are welcome, the notion of going in with a slew of others to purchase livestock and arrange for its slaughter and distribution is, for me, just not a practical solution... More to the point, if some authority had been created to manage this situation at all competently it would be completely unnecessary... I'd add that along with not chastising each other for sharing ideas goes the concept of not passing judgment on those who might have just about had enough of all this and are saying so, by assigning them value-loaded labels like 'whiners'...
@stevieb Not everyone lives in a house with multiple refrigerators, freezers and cabinets. Many live in small apartments. Where would you keep all these extra foodstuffs? Everyone does what they have to do with what they have at home to store and what is available in their area. And taking a two hundred mile trip with no rest rooms open in our states is impossible.
@proudlyfromNJ I completley agree... I have one refigerator with a freezer and it's not a particularly large one... I have no capacity to add to it nor to obtain, at present, a larger model... Even if I could, it appears the most I could hope for right now is they'd leave the new fridge at my front door and it would be up to me to get it into my kitchen and get my old one out... 
I'd add that I am completley fed up witht this supposed 'new normal' and if that makes me a 'whiner' then so the hell be it... 
@Spurt wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:
@ID2 wrote:Buy from your local farmers. I haven't bought any of my produce, fruit, meat , pork or chicken from a grocery store in many, many years! There's never a shortage and its nothing but PURE food. Do a little research and take a visit to your locals, help the little guy while you're at it.
You do know that there are many people in this country who don't have local farms or farmers or have no way to access them if they do? Do a little research?- that's rather insulting.
The entire premise of this post, that there isn't a shortage where the OP shops (in NYC)-same thing applies. In this country of all places, you cannot have what ends up being a myopic view. I don't mean that as an insult, it just is myopic to assume that everyone's situation is like yours. In a huge country, with countless variable factors.
@Greeneyedlady21 Agree... We're all having different experiences now days and it seems that months into this no one is making any effort at all to coordinate the availability of food and other essentials, so that some areas have more than they need and other areas have far less than they need... And I'm sorry, but while all perspectives and ideas are welcome, the notion of going in with a slew of others to purchase livestock and arrange for its slaughter and distribution is, for me, just not a practical solution... More to the point, if some authority had been created to manage this situation at all competently it would be completely unnecessary... I'd add that along with not chastising each other for sharing ideas goes the concept of not passing judgment on those who might have just about had enough of all this and are saying so, by assigning them value-loaded labels like 'whiners'...
Beautifully said! Thank you for expressing what so many of us feel......and thats all I better say ..... although buying a share of a cow or a pig calls to mind an I Love Lucy episode and that makes me smile.....
@Spurt A great episode...
@stevieb wrote:
@proudlyfromNJ wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:
@ID2 wrote:Buy from your local farmers. I haven't bought any of my produce, fruit, meat , pork or chicken from a grocery store in many, many years! There's never a shortage and its nothing but PURE food. Do a little research and take a visit to your locals, help the little guy while you're at it.
You do know that there are many people in this country who don't have local farms or farmers or have no way to access them if they do? Do a little research?- that's rather insulting.
The entire premise of this post, that there isn't a shortage where the OP shops (in NYC)-same thing applies. In this country of all places, you cannot have what ends up being a myopic view. I don't mean that as an insult, it just is myopic to assume that everyone's situation is like yours. In a huge country, with countless variable factors.
@Greeneyedlady21 Agree... We're all having different experiences now days and it seems that months into this no one is making any effort at all to coordinate the availability of food and other essentials, so that some areas have more than they need and other areas have far less than they need... And I'm sorry, but while all perspectives and ideas are welcome, the notion of going in with a slew of others to purchase livestock and arrange for its slaughter and distribution is, for me, just not a practical solution... More to the point, if some authority had been created to manage this situation at all competently it would be completely unnecessary... I'd add that along with not chastising each other for sharing ideas goes the concept of not passing judgment on those who might have just about had enough of all this and are saying so, by assigning them value-loaded labels like 'whiners'...
@stevieb Not everyone lives in a house with multiple refrigerators, freezers and cabinets. Many live in small apartments. Where would you keep all these extra foodstuffs? Everyone does what they have to do with what they have at home to store and what is available in their area. And taking a two hundred mile trip with no rest rooms open in our states is impossible.
@proudlyfromNJ I completley agree... I have one refigerator with a freezer and it's not a particularly large one... I have no capacity to add to it nor to obtain, at present, a larger model... Even if I could, it appears the most I could hope for right now is they'd leave the new fridge at my front door and it would be up to me to get it into my kitchen and get my old one out...
When I brought up limited space, I was told to can my own meat but still there's the problem of storing not only the canned meat, but the meat canning equipment as well....that is if you can find meat in the first place---and buying livestock is not an option for me either....The only thing canned in my future, is tuna, and even thats limited....but I guess I can buy a fishing pole and go down to the Riverwalk and hope for the best...... 
@stevieb wrote:
@Spurt wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:
@ID2 wrote:Buy from your local farmers. I haven't bought any of my produce, fruit, meat , pork or chicken from a grocery store in many, many years! There's never a shortage and its nothing but PURE food. Do a little research and take a visit to your locals, help the little guy while you're at it.
You do know that there are many people in this country who don't have local farms or farmers or have no way to access them if they do? Do a little research?- that's rather insulting.
The entire premise of this post, that there isn't a shortage where the OP shops (in NYC)-same thing applies. In this country of all places, you cannot have what ends up being a myopic view. I don't mean that as an insult, it just is myopic to assume that everyone's situation is like yours. In a huge country, with countless variable factors.
@Greeneyedlady21 Agree... We're all having different experiences now days and it seems that months into this no one is making any effort at all to coordinate the availability of food and other essentials, so that some areas have more than they need and other areas have far less than they need... And I'm sorry, but while all perspectives and ideas are welcome, the notion of going in with a slew of others to purchase livestock and arrange for its slaughter and distribution is, for me, just not a practical solution... More to the point, if some authority had been created to manage this situation at all competently it would be completely unnecessary... I'd add that along with not chastising each other for sharing ideas goes the concept of not passing judgment on those who might have just about had enough of all this and are saying so, by assigning them value-loaded labels like 'whiners'...
Beautifully said! Thank you for expressing what so many of us feel......and thats all I better say ..... although buying a share of a cow or a pig calls to mind an I Love Lucy episode and that makes me smile.....
@Spurt A great episode...
One of my favorite episodes.... 
@Spurt wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
@proudlyfromNJ wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:
@ID2 wrote:Buy from your local farmers. I haven't bought any of my produce, fruit, meat , pork or chicken from a grocery store in many, many years! There's never a shortage and its nothing but PURE food. Do a little research and take a visit to your locals, help the little guy while you're at it.
You do know that there are many people in this country who don't have local farms or farmers or have no way to access them if they do? Do a little research?- that's rather insulting.
The entire premise of this post, that there isn't a shortage where the OP shops (in NYC)-same thing applies. In this country of all places, you cannot have what ends up being a myopic view. I don't mean that as an insult, it just is myopic to assume that everyone's situation is like yours. In a huge country, with countless variable factors.
@Greeneyedlady21 Agree... We're all having different experiences now days and it seems that months into this no one is making any effort at all to coordinate the availability of food and other essentials, so that some areas have more than they need and other areas have far less than they need... And I'm sorry, but while all perspectives and ideas are welcome, the notion of going in with a slew of others to purchase livestock and arrange for its slaughter and distribution is, for me, just not a practical solution... More to the point, if some authority had been created to manage this situation at all competently it would be completely unnecessary... I'd add that along with not chastising each other for sharing ideas goes the concept of not passing judgment on those who might have just about had enough of all this and are saying so, by assigning them value-loaded labels like 'whiners'...
@stevieb Not everyone lives in a house with multiple refrigerators, freezers and cabinets. Many live in small apartments. Where would you keep all these extra foodstuffs? Everyone does what they have to do with what they have at home to store and what is available in their area. And taking a two hundred mile trip with no rest rooms open in our states is impossible.
@proudlyfromNJ I completley agree... I have one refigerator with a freezer and it's not a particularly large one... I have no capacity to add to it nor to obtain, at present, a larger model... Even if I could, it appears the most I could hope for right now is they'd leave the new fridge at my front door and it would be up to me to get it into my kitchen and get my old one out...
When I brought up limited space, I was told to can my own meat but still there's the problem of storing not only the canned meat, but the meat canning equipment as well....that is if you can find meat in the first place---and buying livestock is not an option for me either....The only thing canned in my future, is tuna, and even thats limited....but I guess I can buy a fishing pole and go down to the Riverwalk and hope for the best......
@Spurt Exactly. I would make do with fish or just vegetables and fruit etc. We don't need meat to survive.
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