NYC terror attack - Page 16

nun ya · ‎03-09-2010

I have nothing against people coming to this country. However, if you are questioned a couple yr ago about your activities here, they should be watching you.

LilacTree · ‎03-25-2012

@sunala wrote:
@LilacTree wrote:
@Trinity11 wrote:
@software wrote:
After the car & truck attacks overseas, the NYC cops & the FBI have developed a relationship with car/truck rental outlets in NY & NJ, teaching them how to spot a bogus ID and sharing other information.

I don't know how the guy got to the Home Depot.
Don't know if he stole or rented the truck.
The bad guys can steal a vehicle from anywhere.

We'll just have to wait and see.
But I have faith that NYC and the local FBI office including Homeland Security has been doing all they can since 9/11.
CBS news reported he showed his license and rented the truck. They found his car in the parking lot. He is an Uber driver.
@Trinity11
I have always been leery of Uber drivers . . . admittedly probably not fair of me.

As to Paterson, NJ, when I lived in North Jersey, I avoided that city even way back when. I was very skittish about having to go there to collect my unemployment check when I was pregnant and no longer permitted to work. (A woman was not allowed to work beyond six months of pregnancy at most businesses in the 1960s.)

@LilacTree- At my job, I was let go at the end of five months of pregnancy. This was in the late 1960's. You are SO LUCKY that you were able to collect unemployment! I had to file a case to try to get unemployment, and the man at the hearing asked me "What kind of job did I expect to get? Modeling maternity clothes?" He of course had a big sneer on his face. Yup, that's how it went in those days. We've come a long way, baby!

And, I know about Paterson. Not a great place to go, from as far back as I can remember. I've never ridden in an Uber and I don't think I ever will.

@sunala

I don't know if it was called "unemployment insurance," but I was allowed to collect for several months. This was in 1962.

As far as Ubers, I don't even like taxis unless I'm with a group of people. When I worked in NYC at age 19, I took the train and the subway and then walked to my building. It took over an hour just to get to work, even though I was not far from the bridge. I hated the commute home because it was dark. That job didn't last long.

Formerly Ford1224
We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Elie Wiesel 1986

reiki604 · ‎03-09-2010

@Topaz Gem wrote:
Every time a terrorist attack occurs, they give us a very valuable clue. These clues should not be ignored. They are a road map of exactly what our vulnerabilities are. No one is talking about ending immigration from third world countries, but we have to be much smarter about it. After 9/11, we learned how terrorists took out student visas with no accountability to our government to provide proof that they were ever enrolled in college. They knew that they could just simply disappear and no one would look for them.

The same goes for the Diversity Program. It has outlived its usefulness in its current state, given the dramatic changes the world has undergone since 9/11. The program must be scrapped immediately and replaced with a much more efficient system that is not administered by lottery. We cannot afford to lose any more of our citizens.

Given your example, shouldn't guns be regulated much more severely as so many more people have been killed through gun violence by domestic terrorists as well as gun violence in general.

Let's look at to elimnate the terrorizing of our citizens whether it be immigration reform, gun control, or the hatred by the 'good people' of the White Supremacist

and Neo-Nazi movement.

'I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man'.......Unknown

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

@Maudlynn wrote:
@Stray wrote:
I just came back from the Middle East....I was even profiled....it didn't bother me as it was for security. These countries know who is in their Country, how long you've been there and they make sure you leave. Australia and NZ, controlled immigration. No one is saying close the borders, just be sensible.
Are you a white, middle aged female?

@Maudlynn- No...I wasnt profiled re gender or race

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@reiki604 wrote:

Given your example, shouldn't guns be regulated much more severely as so many more people have been killed through gun violence by domestic terrorists as well as gun violence in general.

Let's look at to elimnate the terrorizing of our citizens whether it be immigration reform, gun control, or the hatred by the 'good people' of the White Supremacist
and Neo-Nazi movement.

@reiki604

Studies have consistently shown that gun deaths are more by suicide than homicide. A 2013 study showed over 19,000 deaths by suicide and about 11,000 by homicide. More recent years the total number of gun deaths has risen to about 33,000, but about the same percentages as the study I mentioned.

Going strictly by numbers, the most recent study I heard there were over 61,000 deaths by overdose, both legal and illegal drugs. Seems to me if one is going strictly by numbers, the OD related deaths, either by suicide and/or lack of doseage knowledge, should be the top priority when it comes to deaths by a particular cause.

Terror related deaths can be considered both suicide and homicide most of the time, but in this case it was only homicide/murder, to be exact. How a person feels about guns is very subjective, but I would like to think most clear thinking individuals think the same way when it comes to terrorism committed in our country killing innocent United States citizens. The method used to commit these heinous acts should be secondary in my opinion.

hckynut

hckynut(john)

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

As far as gun deaths go, when the folks wanting to pass more laws - enforce the ones we already have, THEN I will be willing to listen to them.

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@Isobel Archer wrote:
As far as gun deaths go, when the folks wanting to pass more laws - enforce the ones we already have, THEN I will be willing to listen to them.

@Isobel Archer

I could not agree more with your statement. All laws are only as good as their enforcement. Without that these laws are only words, and words alone do little to deter most crimes.

Thank you for your very straight forward and common sense comment.

hckynut

hckynut(john)

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

Guns were not part of this Terror Attack.

Why is it being discussed?

Mods could code it as ‘off topic’.

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

@Ms tyrion2 wrote:
@stuyvesant wrote:
I do a lot of travelling, and I've been on my share of tour busses. You'd really be surprised how many people dislike New Yorkers.

I know it's strange, but there it is. People actually do not like New York City, or the people who live in New York City.

What is your point?
How does this relate to the tragedy?

Nevermind.
I don't want to hear any more of this absurdity

@stuyvesant- I travel extensively around the world and the Country and contrary to what you hear, people love real New Yorkers and they know the difference. As a matter of fact, I was just in the Middle East and I met an impressive young couple. She was of Indian descent, was born in Figi, grew up in NZ and married a Kiwi; they've lived in London for a number of years. With the growing number of terrorist attacks, they've decided to go home to NZ but were traveling to India, Europe, the Maldives, Middle East before returning home. She said it was so nice to see retired couples traveling and she hoped that they could travel more when they retired...I replied "but where will you go, you are so well traveled"....she said "New York of course". I laughed and asked why....she said we went on business and New Yorkers were so warm and kind...helped them with their maps, bought them drinks, and they felt it was one of the warmest cities she had ever visited and were "in love with NY".

I live in Italy part time, the dream of most young Italians, NYC....Australians love NYC ....Greeks love NYC....I could go on

most people in the world I've met, dream of NYC

Americans don't understand NYC

I am a commuter and traveled to NYC from NJ almost all of my 50 years working....the rudeness you encounter in NY may be transplants or commuters like myself. But born in NYC with "concrete in their blood" as my best NY born and bred best friend claims are kind, generous, good people...what you saw on 9/11, that's NY.....the police caring for homeless, that's NYC, stopping to help an injured person or animal, that's NYC...they are quick to give, quick to help....I see New Yorkers bring food and clothing to the homeless on the streets, give them gloves and coats to keep them warm....I am from NJ and many people may judge a City by who they encounter ....but you can't judge New Yorkers based on that or silly stereo types.

all big cities have problems NONE are exempt but New Yorkers get a bad rap because so many want to live there....

Stray · ‎04-20-2013

@Maudlynn wrote:
@SydneyH wrote:
@Stray wrote:
I just came back from the Middle East....I was even profiled....it didn't bother me as it was for security. These countries know who is in their Country, how long you've been there and they make sure you leave. Australia and NZ, controlled immigration. No one is saying close the borders, just be sensible.
We haven't been sensible though, closing the borders, even temporarily might allievate our problem.
What do you mean by closing the borders? No tourists, no business travelers, no visas issued for people to work here?

@Maudlynn- I think she means re inmigration, diversity visas....it's an old program and it doesn't work in Today's world....it's not political, well known people from both parties agree it should be discontinued.