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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@QueenDanceALot wrote:

I can't even imagine what it's like to be a medical person who went into the field to save lives and help people and then they have to make these decisions.

 

It's all just so unthinkable.


When I spoke to my friend this morning, she said if she survives, she is leaving the profession as soon at the crisis is over.

 


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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@reiki604 wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

I can't even imagine what it's like to be a medical person who went into the field to save lives and help people and then they have to make these decisions.

 

It's all just so unthinkable.


When I spoke to my friend this morning, she said if she survives, she is leaving the profession as soon at the crisis is over.

 


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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@Imaoldhippie wrote:

Just think the military medical personnel has to make those decisions of which wounded to not treat and let die and only treat those to will survive.  Very sad.


They do that all the time as field medics. My father was a medic in the Army.

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals

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My niece, who is a nurse, says that most who suffer from cardiac arrest do not survive, even when given CPR. 

 

ETA: Just reread that and I don't see where it mentions anything about not receiving CPR at all. Please point that out to me. Thanks!

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@Sushismom wrote:

@Imaoldhippie wrote:

Just think the military medical personnel has to make those decisions of which wounded to not treat and let die and only treat those to will survive.  Very sad.


They do that all the time as field medics. My father was a medic in the Army.


So it's just worth a big shoulder shrug?

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals

If the curve continues as expected, there will be many more of these types of situations. They have already started having discussions about rationing ventilators which, again, is one more burden placed on our poor healthcare heroes. When this nightmare is finally over, I hope the powers that be will find a way to give these workers at least ten paid weeks off to rest, destress and get emotional support for the trauma they are experiencing.

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Sushismom wrote:

@Imaoldhippie wrote:

Just think the military medical personnel has to make those decisions of which wounded to not treat and let die and only treat those to will survive.  Very sad.


They do that all the time as field medics. My father was a medic in the Army.


So it's just worth a big shoulder shrug?


Who said that? I certainly did not. Yet, as medics, they must make that decision all the time. Anyone who's done triage must make that decision. Sad, but true. 

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@Sushismom wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

@Sushismom wrote:

@Imaoldhippie wrote:

Just think the military medical personnel has to make those decisions of which wounded to not treat and let die and only treat those to will survive.  Very sad.


They do that all the time as field medics. My father was a medic in the Army.


So it's just worth a big shoulder shrug?


Who said that? I certainly did not. Yet, as medics, they must make that decision all the time. Anyone who's done triage must make that decision. Sad, but true. 


Your posts give me a "shoulder shrug" feel.

 

Sorry if I msread them.

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals

As a hospital employee, even administrative support personnel like myself, were taught different roles in the event we were needed for hands on disaster relief.   

 

The evacuation training I received to physically help move patients, was a true eye opener.   In simulation, we first moved all patients who were able to walk and help themselves, since we were evacuating down stairwells.  

 

Then we practiced evacuating sicker patients, those with equipment, that had to be carried down the stairwells, with both stretchers and by bedsheet transfer.   Carrying an adult patient on a bedsheet down 3+ flights of stairs to the safe zone is very hard!  My 4 person team had 2 strong ones and 2 very weak ones, but we managed to get our patient out safely during the drill.  

 

And then there was the reality of hearing that the very last patients to be moved, were the sickest, most helpless ones, which required the most manpower to move.   Even tho it was a simulated drill, I remember thinking of those few “patients” as the ones we sacrificed getting all others to safety.   

 

It has always bothered me to know that is the reality of what can happen in the most emergent of hospital situations.   

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@reiki604 wrote:

@QueenDanceALot wrote:

I can't even imagine what it's like to be a medical person who went into the field to save lives and help people and then they have to make these decisions.

 

It's all just so unthinkable.


When I spoke to my friend this morning, she said if she survives, she is leaving the profession as soon at the crisis is over.

 


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I have to say the situation our health care workers find themselves in is one of the most emotionally challenging aspects of this event for me.  I have heard from many nurses out there via email, text messages, or phone calls.  They are all under the gun and absolutely desperate.  But yet, they go in to work every day facing situations they just never thought they would have to face, mainly that they don't have even the basic PPE they need to protect theirselves.  Can't even begin to talk about the times I have ended up in tears.  

 

One nurse told me this is like sending soldiers into battle telling them there are no weapons for you to use, but just do the best you can do with whatever you can find.  And yet, they go into work every single day.  Many of them are working overtime.  They are running out of medications used to keep patients sedated and comfortable on ventilators and work with docs to retool to learn about different combinations of other meds that are available to keep their patients sedated until they can get a supply of meds delivered.  

The stories are just heartbreaking. 


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