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02-16-2015 06:49 PM
Rivers in North America typically run north to south. I've long been intrigued by the idea of a man-made river (or a series of them) connecting those north/south rivers together that would allow the diversion of flooded rivers into the man-made river to supply areas that were suffering from droughts or to resupply aquifers. I like the idea of an American Autobahn going east-west across the country with the man-made river running under it. Environmentalists would hate the idea as it would allow species from other rivers to move from one habitat to another, but it could solve many of the water/flooding issues the country faces on a regular basis.
Pipelines aren't effective for moving vast amounts of water (and we're talking about vast amounts of water from floods) but a river, kept empty most of the time, that was suddenly available to absorb the excess water could be pretty effective. Filtering/pumping stations to filter then inject that clean rain water back into aquifers could handle excess water also. An Autobahn type highway (toll road with unrestricted speed limits) atop a large (thirty foot deep 180 feet wide) man-made river topped by a highway starting at the Delaware River to the Susquehanna, to the Ohio, Mississippi, and western rivers could link major US cities and alleviate flooding issues at the same time. The construction costs would be enormous, but it's doable.
As to disease outbreaks, jet travel is a much bigger issue than climate change. With modern travel pretty much every isolated disease is just a few hours away from a few million people.
And with regards to global warming the focus is almost exclusively on carbon dioxide and it's reflective capabilities (the greenhouse effect) and little to no attention is given to the heat generated here. Every American reportedly generates 65 million plus btu's of energy a year and that's an enormous amount of heat generated per person. Most of the models showing the greenhouse effect ignore that heat and assume it would just go straight up into outer space without the greenhouse effect, but heat radiates out in all directions and with more people, more homes, cars, buildings, there should be more heat. More heat equals higher temps. If the greenhouse effect was working as projected, one would actually expect the temps to be higher than they are.
There's no debate that humans play a role in climate change, just as any other creature does, but how big a role do we play (I'm not so sure we play that big a role,) what can we do to lessen that impact, what works, and what's nonsense are the areas we should be focused on. A lot of the stuff people talk about now will in the future be looked at like we now look at glacier shattering man-made mountains and rockets to move the Earth. They're impressive solutions to a problem that doesn't exist. The money we're spending now on alternative power sources while backing them up with conventional power plants running in the background the whole time will likely be viewed as monumental wastes of money in the future. Wind farms, solar farms are little more than fancy lawn ornaments for all they achieve.
02-16-2015 07:20 PM
On 2/16/2015 BaileyandBella said:My son asked why we cannot get all the rain and snow from back East out here to CA.
I told him it would cost a FORTUNE and by the time they were done, the drought would be over.....
The politicos apparently think they can build a pipeline from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico. Why not build one for water from the NE to the SW?
A lot of the problem with drought seems to be with the temperature of water in the Pacific. It's warming and that seems to affect rain and snow fall. It may already be too late to prevent a disaster.
02-16-2015 07:25 PM
On 2/16/2015 esmeraldagooch said:On 2/16/2015 Melania2 said:On 2/16/2015 esmeraldagooch said:On 2/16/2015 NoelSeven said:On 2/16/2015 esmeraldagooch said:So, Someone is making money on Carbon Credits and someone is making money selling green items to companies to offset buying carbon credits. Follow the money.
Do you do that about oil?
How about fracking?
Follow the money can be said about anything in life. A brilliant comment, it is not.
Fracking is done on private lands. These companies employ thousands of Americans with great paying jobs. States that do much of the fracking have had booms to the areas. Are you against great paying jobs Noel? Also, the abundance of natural gas and oil has lowered prices for us at the gas station and in home heating prices. Again, Noel are you against lowered prices?
Private lands??? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Booms?? At what cost??? Wow
They had to do it on Private land. No cost to you, or are you charging them?
Immenent domain...who says those people wanted it?? Not where I live they don't.
Private means nothing when it's forced.
02-16-2015 07:26 PM
On 2/16/2015 Kachina624 said:On 2/16/2015 BaileyandBella said:My son asked why we cannot get all the rain and snow from back East out here to CA.
I told him it would cost a FORTUNE and by the time they were done, the drought would be over.....
The politicos apparently think they can build a pipeline from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico. Why not build one for water from the NE to the SW?
A lot of the problem with drought seems to be with the temperature of water in the Pacific. It's warming and that seems to affect rain and snow fall. It may already be too late to prevent a disaster.
I should be able to be done but it's not a money maker for the greedy oil companies like the fracking pipeline is.
It's a crime.
02-16-2015 07:56 PM
On 2/16/2015 CrazyDaisy said:On 2/16/2015 Cakers1 said:On 2/16/2015 Free2be said:That's hilarious that anyone could think a wall of concrete would stop a glacier. Apart from that bit of wisdom, studies on glacier melting reflects continuing melting even with precipitation.
I never heard of the wall of concrete that gardenman mentioned. However, people look at the surface melting of glaciers and ignore that glaciers are melting underneath sea levels. And while some volcanic activity accounts for the underwater breakup of glaciers, it still stands that melting glaciers are a concern - big time, btw.
It is estimated that the remaining 30 glaciers in the Glacier National Park (out of the original 150) will be gone within the next 25-30 years.
What people are not getting is that the events that take place over a geologic time frame are now happening in the span of a human lifetime.
Think about it. The snickering about "global warming" or "climate change" - y'all aren't going to be snickering so much and soon. What will happen to our grandchildren? Oh wait - some don't have children/grandchildren so why should they care? I cringe to think what their carbon footprint looks like.
Shame on those who want to think that we are going to continue on this miserable route without severe consequences.
Geological records show that changes can happen very quickly or very slowly, there is no specific time table.
I disagree.
02-17-2015 10:59 AM
On 2/16/2015 Melania2 said:On 2/16/2015 Kachina624 said:On 2/16/2015 BaileyandBella said:My son asked why we cannot get all the rain and snow from back East out here to CA.
I told him it would cost a FORTUNE and by the time they were done, the drought would be over.....
The politicos apparently think they can build a pipeline from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico. Why not build one for water from the NE to the SW?
A lot of the problem with drought seems to be with the temperature of water in the Pacific. It's warming and that seems to affect rain and snow fall. It may already be too late to prevent a disaster.
I should be able to be done but it's not a money maker for the greedy oil companies like the fracking pipeline is.
It's a crime.
Do you ever buy a 16oz bottle of water at the store? It costs more than gas if you bought the same quantity. Water and rights to it are probably what would hold up moving the water to CA. Many have water running though their property but they don't own the water or could divert it for personal use. Even run off from rain can be a problem for land owners.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/oregon-man-sentenced-30-days-jail-collecting-rainwater-his-property
02-17-2015 11:33 AM
It's ""eminent domain"" not ""Immenent domain"".
02-17-2015 12:02 PM
Here in my location in the pacific northwest, our snowpack is running at 10% right now. That means our summer water from runoff will be 90% below normal. Farmers are already worrying.
02-17-2015 01:01 PM
I won't bash the USA on this one, not at all. Some of you need to travel to foreign countries - the 3rd and 5th world and actually experience the pollution, squalor, and emissions from not implementing some form of environmental/EPA standards and rule. At least we try and make efforts. Not perfect but not like the other countries. I think those that squawk need to go bang their drums over there. Maybe the more hostile countries might listen to them.
02-17-2015 02:29 PM
Well, that's too bad about the drought, but I will be dead, so it won't matter to me. LOL
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