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Myth: Ice age predicted in the 70s? -- "
any publications now claiming the world is on the brink of a global warming disaster said the same about an impending ice age – just 30 years ago. Several major ones, including The New York Times, Time magazine and Newsweek, have reported on three or even four different climate shifts since 1895." (Fire and Ice) Facts:
<br /> In the thirty years leading up to the 1970s, available temperature recordings suggested that there was a cooling trend. As a result some scientists suggested that the current inter-glacial period could rapidly draw to a close, which might result in the Earth plunging into a new ice age over the next few centuries. This idea could have been reinforced by the knowledge that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – also caused cooling. In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become apparent that the cooling trend was most pronounced in northern land areas and that global temperature trends were in fact relatively steady during the period prior to 1970.<br /> <br /> At the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gasses that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would a much greater influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.<br /> <br /> <br /> By 1980 the predictions about ice ages had ceased, due to the overwhelming evidence contained in an increasing number of reports that warned of global warming. Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember.
<br /> <br /> The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming."
(If you don't like this source, do an internet search on "1970s ice age myth" for numerous other sources.)
Thanks for the cool graph. I do agree with your last paragraph. 97% have been forced to agree with each other by the powers that control their purse strings. Any other voices are silenced or are mocked. Follow the money, AlGore said FL would be under water by now.
You're quite welcome! With all due respect, following the money to the oil industry makes a great deal more sense. And this isn't about Al Gore, no matter how much anyone wants to try and force it to be... that's a diversion. It's about climate (not weather) and science (not politics).
Myth: Ice age predicted in the 70s? -- "
any publications now claiming the world is on the brink of a global warming disaster said the same about an impending ice age – just 30 years ago. Several major ones, including The New York Times, Time magazine and Newsweek, have reported on three or even four different climate shifts since 1895." (Fire and Ice) Facts:
<br /> In the thirty years leading up to the 1970s, available temperature recordings suggested that there was a cooling trend. As a result some scientists suggested that the current inter-glacial period could rapidly draw to a close, which might result in the Earth plunging into a new ice age over the next few centuries. This idea could have been reinforced by the knowledge that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – also caused cooling. In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become apparent that the cooling trend was most pronounced in northern land areas and that global temperature trends were in fact relatively steady during the period prior to 1970.<br /> <br /> At the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gasses that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would a much greater influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.<br /> <br /> <br /> By 1980 the predictions about ice ages had ceased, due to the overwhelming evidence contained in an increasing number of reports that warned of global warming. Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember.
<br /> <br /> The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming."
(If you don't like this source, do an internet search on "1970s ice age myth" for numerous other sources.)
Thanks for the cool graph. I do agree with your last paragraph. 97% have been forced to agree with each other by the powers that control their purse strings. Any other voices are silenced or are mocked. Follow the money, AlGore said FL would be under water by now.
You're quite welcome! With all due respect, following the money to the oil industry makes a great deal more sense. And this isn't about Al Gore, no matter how much anyone wants to try and force it to be... that's a diversion. It's about climate (not weather) and science (not politics).
Not according to her...read her post #30.
Aren't we all supposed to be under water from the rise in seawater by then too? If the seawater rises and we have a drought we could have the unique experience of drowning in a drought. I've seen way too many long range forecasts go horribly wrong to trust them. Back in the seventies (I think) after a few bad winters in a row there was talk that we were in a new ice age and we had to act immediately to prevent a disaster. There was talk of building massive manmade concrete mountain ranges to shield the bigger northern cities from the inevitable advance of the glaciers. There's always some massive danger lurking in the distant future that we must act now to prevent. The funny thing is these dangers never seem to arrive.Really?
Yeah, the sketches shown at the time showed a massive saw-tooth like man-made mountains that would let the glaciers rise up onto steel spines where the weight of the glacier would cause it to fracture into small pieces that would then be easily removed. Construction was expected to take a century or more to protect the most important major northern cities and they would be the biggest man-made structures ever made. With the ice age already underway however there was the need to start construction immediately. For whatever reason Congress never approved the spending.
Around that same time there was talk of building a giant rocket engine in the desert southwest that would be fed from oil/gas wells to move the whole planet to a new solar system should our sun fail. Once again, Congress thought better of it.
Back in the eighties (I believe) there was a report that the Gulf Stream was moving north at a fast pace and that by 2000 (or so) New Jersey would have Florida-like temperatures year round. A local paper actually ran a story advising local nursery owners to consider planting orange and grapefruit trees instead of apple and peach trees due to the inevitable move of the Gulf Stream northward. Now, the two degree temperatures outside this morning tend to indicate that the Gulf Stream didn't make it all the way here.
There is always some new disaster lurking out there in the future just waiting to kill us all if we don't spend millions/billions now. The one constant has been that the forecasts are always wrong. That's why I don't get overly alarmed by whatever the newest "threat to all mankind" is. Humans live above the arctic circle and in the subtropics, so we're pretty darn adaptable.
Climate and weather are two different things. Regarding the last sentence, of course that's true... but if the entire globe had those extremes, much of the flora and fauna of the world would disappear forever. Perhaps we shouldn't be "alarmed" at seeing the earth being so badly treated by humans... I guess I don't think that way, though.
"Only after the last tree has been cut down.
Only after the last river has been poisoned.
Only after the last fish has been caught.
Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten." (Cree prophecy)
Myth: Ice age predicted in the 70s? -- "
any publications now claiming the world is on the brink of a global warming disaster said the same about an impending ice age – just 30 years ago. Several major ones, including The New York Times, Time magazine and Newsweek, have reported on three or even four different climate shifts since 1895." (Fire and Ice) Facts:
In the thirty years leading up to the 1970s, available temperature recordings suggested that there was a cooling trend. As a result some scientists suggested that the current inter-glacial period could rapidly draw to a close, which might result in the Earth plunging into a new ice age over the next few centuries. This idea could have been reinforced by the knowledge that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – also caused cooling. In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become apparent that the cooling trend was most pronounced in northern land areas and that global temperature trends were in fact relatively steady during the period prior to 1970.
At the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gasses that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would a much greater influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.
By 1980 the predictions about ice ages had ceased, due to the overwhelming evidence contained in an increasing number of reports that warned of global warming. Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember.
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The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming."
(If you don't like this source, do an internet search on "1970s ice age myth" for numerous other sources.)
Thanks for the cool graph. I do agree with your last paragraph. 97% have been forced to agree with each other by the powers that control their purse strings. Any other voices are silenced or are mocked. Follow the money, AlGore said FL would be under water by now.
You're quite welcome! With all due respect, following the money to the oil industry makes a great deal more sense. And this isn't about Al Gore, no matter how much anyone wants to try and force it to be... that's a diversion. It's about climate (not weather) and science (not politics).
Not according to her...read her post #30.
I know, Melania. It's a strawman tossed into every climate change discussion, isn't it, along with the numerous myths, like the 1977 Time magazine cover she edited after I posted the full info. That's why these threads usually are fruitless and, eventually, removed.
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