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betteb · ‎03-09-2010

On 11/13/2014 raven-blackbird said:
I think it's been the pursuit of making kids happy that has bought about all we've seen in the news lately................we'd all be better off, if we brought our kids up to be WELL ADJUSTED......and armed with the life skills needed to make it in the world...........................................raven

Well said. We wen't too far the other way. From strict to permissive.

It's God's job to judge the terrorists. It's our mission to arrange the meeting. U.S. Marines

Qwackertoo · ‎03-11-2010

On 11/13/2014 raven-blackbird said:
I think it's been the pursuit of making kids happy that has bought about all we've seen in the news lately................we'd all be better off, if we brought our kids up to be WELL ADJUSTED......and armed with the life skills needed to make it in the world...........................................raven

Yep.

The FEEL GOOD GENERATION.

Everybody gets a trophy.

Everybody wins.

Nobody loses.

No one is ever told no.

The last 10+ years they seem to push "group projects". Yeah right. Maybe 2 kids in the group do ALL the work. Maybe even just 1 kid does all the work.

Qwackertoo · ‎03-11-2010

p.s. to the Feel Good Generation

No Valedictorian . . . might hurt someone's FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS

No Salutatorian . . . might hurt someone's FEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS

No Class Rankings . . . AGAIN might hurt someone's FEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS

We're not a HUGE high school but we are a student body over 1,000 in size

nun ya · ‎03-09-2010

On 11/13/2014 Qwackertoo said:
On 11/13/2014 raven-blackbird said:
I think it's been the pursuit of making kids happy that has bought about all we've seen in the news lately................we'd all be better off, if we brought our kids up to be WELL ADJUSTED......and armed with the life skills needed to make it in the world...........................................raven

Yep.

The FEEL GOOD GENERATION.

Everybody gets a trophy.

Everybody wins.

Nobody loses.

No one is ever told no.

The last 10+ years they seem to push "group projects". Yeah right. Maybe 2 kids in the group do ALL the work. Maybe even just 1 kid does all the work.

Yes, I have noticed that with group projects, even in college. My daughter is doing one right now, another girl in the group, refuses to do any work because she's already graduating with honors, and it won't hurt her grade.

Qwackertoo · ‎03-11-2010

On 11/14/2014 nunya said:
On 11/13/2014 Qwackertoo said:
On 11/13/2014 raven-blackbird said:
I think it's been the pursuit of making kids happy that has bought about all we've seen in the news lately................we'd all be better off, if we brought our kids up to be WELL ADJUSTED......and armed with the life skills needed to make it in the world...........................................raven

Yep.

The FEEL GOOD GENERATION.

Everybody gets a trophy.

Everybody wins.

Nobody loses.

No one is ever told no.

The last 10+ years they seem to push "group projects". Yeah right. Maybe 2 kids in the group do ALL the work. Maybe even just 1 kid does all the work.

Yes, I have noticed that with group projects, even in college. My daughter is doing one right now, another girl in the group, refuses to do any work because she's already graduating with honors, and it won't hurt her grade.

Yep, it continues in college with my daughter. And still have issues getting some participants to do their assigned part . . . they don't . . . excuses vary . . . so she and other's have to step up and do it for them.

I remember . . . having a conversation many years ago with the elementary school principal and my saying how I didn't care for the "group projects" and their increased use . . . he told me he supported them and had the hopes that the one or two achievers in each group would be a positive role model for the others and motivate them to try harder and do better . . . well that was back when daughter was in about second grade and now 3rd year in college and I don't think it worked. The slackers are still slackers, well not 100% slackers or else they wouldn't be in college . . . but they are sliding by when it comes to group projects to this day. Different kids but still the same "let somebody else do all the work" attitude.

nun ya · ‎03-09-2010

On 11/13/2014 Qwackertoo said:

Yep, it continues in college with my daughter. And still have issues getting some participants to do their assigned part . . . they don't . . . excuses vary . . . so she and other's have to step up and do it for them.

I remember . . . having a conversation many years ago with the elementary school principal and my saying how I didn't care for the "group projects" and their increased use . . . he told me he supported them and had the hopes that the one or two achievers in each group would be a positive role model for the others and motivate them to try harder and do better . . . well that was back when daughter was in about second grade and now 3rd year in college and I don't think it worked. The slackers are still slackers, well not 100% slackers or else they wouldn't be in college . . . but they are sliding by when it comes to group projects to this day. Different kids but still the same "let somebody else do all the work" attitude.

I agree. I'd rather each student do their own work and let their grade reflect them individually. Doing the work of multiple people is stressful for the ones who do care.

Surfnturf · ‎03-09-2010

nunya, I didn"t care for the group projects either after an uncomfortable experience with another parent. A father called me in a virtual rage because he didn't receive good feedback from the school regarding his son's participation in a project he participated in with my child.. When he asked his son about it, the child told him he didn't participate enough because my son wanted to do it all. He believed him. LOL

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

On 11/14/2014 nunya said:

On 11/13/2014 Qwackertoo said:

Yep, it continues in college with my daughter. And still have issues getting some participants to do their assigned part . . . they don't . . . excuses vary . . . so she and other's have to step up and do it for them.

I remember . . . having a conversation many years ago with the elementary school principal and my saying how I didn't care for the "group projects" and their increased use . . . he told me he supported them and had the hopes that the one or two achievers in each group would be a positive role model for the others and motivate them to try harder and do better . . . well that was back when daughter was in about second grade and now 3rd year in college and I don't think it worked. The slackers are still slackers, well not 100% slackers or else they wouldn't be in college . . . but they are sliding by when it comes to group projects to this day. Different kids but still the same "let somebody else do all the work" attitude.

I agree. I'd rather each student do their own work and let their grade reflect them individually. Doing the work of multiple people is stressful for the ones who do care.

We had some positive experiences with the group projects, and some not so positive.

I am fine with it, if the teacher is willing to do extra work of giving the kids a rubric, having the kids choose and submit what each one of the group's responsibilities is, and the major part of the grade is from the individual's work, with a smaller percentage being the "group" part.

I think it is good for kids to learn to work in a team. It fosters leadership and mentoring, and if teachers are willing to take the time to watch and see the dynamics of how each child in the group is participating and score accordingly, then it can be a good process.

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

HAPPY is very important. I don't believe anyone can be really happy unless they work to become their full potential, and especially important, that they give back to those in need.

Reaching one's full potential takes hard work, and usually it also takes a really good formal education.

HAPPY also includes taking care of yourself and those you love. Eat foods that are good for you and be active.

HAPPY, I think, must be learned for some people, because there are many we see who obviously are not happy. For sure, they don't build much fun into their lives. We do happy things in this family, all the time. We celebrate all good things, our pets make us happy, giving to others makes us happy.

I'd be very disappointed if I didn't have a child who grew to be a happy, well-adjusted and hard working person who always sought out ways to help others.

Luckily, I got one.

A Thrill Of Hope The Weary World Rejoices

Plaid Pants · ‎11-03-2014

On 11/15/2014 NoelSeven said:
HAPPY is very important. I don't believe anyone can be really happy unless they work to become their full potential, and especially important, that they give back to those in need.

Reaching one's full potential takes hard work, and usually it also takes a really good formal education.

HAPPY also includes taking care of yourself and those you love. Eat foods that are good for you and be active.

HAPPY, I think, must be learned for some people, because there are many we see who obviously are not happy. For sure, they don't build much fun into their lives. We do happy things in this family, all the time. We celebrate all good things, our pets make us happy, giving to others makes us happy.

I'd be very disappointed if I didn't have a child who grew to be a happy, well-adjusted and hard working person who always sought out ways to help others.

Luckily, I got one.

So, if one doesn't go to college, they can't be happy?

If one is overweight, they can't be happy?

If they don't give back, they can't be happy?

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