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@Ladybug724 wrote:

@Frosted Cake wrote:

I wrote a post that isn't getting much looks about the George Benson version (original version) of "The Greatest Love of All" that was the theme song for Muhammad Ali's movie "The Greatest."   Over the years, that version was forgotten over the commercially successful one by Whitney.   The movie version is so much more powerful, IMO.

 

I love this quote from Muhammad Ali that was stated this morning by the Mayor of Louisville.  In our current climate, such profound words:

 

We all have the same God, we just serve him differently. Rivers, lakes, ponds, streams, oceans all have different names, but they all contain water. So do religions have different names, and they all contain truth, expressed in different ways forms and times. It doesn't matter whether you're a Muslim, a Christian, or a Jew. When you believe in God, you should believe that all people are part of one family. If you love God, you can't love only some of his children.

 

MUHAMMAD ALI , The Soul of a Butterfly

 

 




I'm sorry but I must disagree.  We do not all have the same God.  That is not a correct statement at all.  You need to study other religions and then I feel you will change your mind.


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Abraham is the father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.  All with the same God.  That covers a lot of the world.

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Re: Muhammad Ali is Dead

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@KALLIE wrote:

@shoekitty wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@bells4me wrote:

I had no respect for the man.  He refused to serve his country.  I was graduating high school and my dad had just returned from 18 months in Japan, his 3rd tour.  Some of my co students were enlisting, some were drafted and some lost their lives.  He got drafted, changed his name and refused.


^THIS.

 

Shoekitty said


 I think he truly was a conscientious objector.  I think his conversion was real.  It is hard to understand, but many people truly are believers in this philosophy.  My grandparents were born in Russia in the late 1800.  They were Molokan.  Molokan is sort of like Amish in a way.  They left Russia as the revolution was starting because of religious freedom.  I guess for years  they had an understanding with the Csar about serving, as Russia had a drafting policy. Then things changed and everyone was taken into service.  The came to america in 1910.    When my grandfather  had to registe rwith the US military , he declined to serve... it says" objector" on his form.  They did believe in what they did,  passionatly!

Cassius Clay was a blow heart, LOL!  it was his personality.  At the time his converting to Islam and rejecting the draft was a big deal in the news.  As the years passed, I think I came to believe he really believed in his religion, and what he did  I do not believe he converted to avoid the draft.  Besides in those days, because of the turmoil they scrutinized every objection, and that man went though a battery of psychological tests The 60's were a different time, you had to be there.  We all know people that died, all of us.  One after another.


Not buying it.


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I'll go with the SCOTUS.  They bought it.

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Wishing him and his family peace.

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@Noel7 wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@shoekitty wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@bells4me wrote:

I had no respect for the man.  He refused to serve his country.  I was graduating high school and my dad had just returned from 18 months in Japan, his 3rd tour.  Some of my co students were enlisting, some were drafted and some lost their lives.  He got drafted, changed his name and refused.


^THIS.

 

Shoekitty said


 I think he truly was a conscientious objector.  I think his conversion was real.  It is hard to understand, but many people truly are believers in this philosophy.  My grandparents were born in Russia in the late 1800.  They were Molokan.  Molokan is sort of like Amish in a way.  They left Russia as the revolution was starting because of religious freedom.  I guess for years  they had an understanding with the Csar about serving, as Russia had a drafting policy. Then things changed and everyone was taken into service.  The came to america in 1910.    When my grandfather  had to registe rwith the US military , he declined to serve... it says" objector" on his form.  They did believe in what they did,  passionatly!

Cassius Clay was a blow heart, LOL!  it was his personality.  At the time his converting to Islam and rejecting the draft was a big deal in the news.  As the years passed, I think I came to believe he really believed in his religion, and what he did  I do not believe he converted to avoid the draft.  Besides in those days, because of the turmoil they scrutinized every objection, and that man went though a battery of psychological tests The 60's were a different time, you had to be there.  We all know people that died, all of us.  One after another.


Not buying it.


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@KALLIE

 

I'll go with the SCOTUS.  They bought it.


GOOD for you, and I'll go with MY opinion.

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When people show you who they are, believe them. Ali showed us who he was. So have others on this thread.

 

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@KALLIE wrote:

@Noel7 wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@shoekitty wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@bells4me wrote:

I had no respect for the man.  He refused to serve his country.  I was graduating high school and my dad had just returned from 18 months in Japan, his 3rd tour.  Some of my co students were enlisting, some were drafted and some lost their lives.  He got drafted, changed his name and refused.


^THIS.

 

Shoekitty said


 I think he truly was a conscientious objector.  I think his conversion was real.  It is hard to understand, but many people truly are believers in this philosophy.  My grandparents were born in Russia in the late 1800.  They were Molokan.  Molokan is sort of like Amish in a way.  They left Russia as the revolution was starting because of religious freedom.  I guess for years  they had an understanding with the Csar about serving, as Russia had a drafting policy. Then things changed and everyone was taken into service.  The came to america in 1910.    When my grandfather  had to registe rwith the US military , he declined to serve... it says" objector" on his form.  They did believe in what they did,  passionatly!

Cassius Clay was a blow heart, LOL!  it was his personality.  At the time his converting to Islam and rejecting the draft was a big deal in the news.  As the years passed, I think I came to believe he really believed in his religion, and what he did  I do not believe he converted to avoid the draft.  Besides in those days, because of the turmoil they scrutinized every objection, and that man went though a battery of psychological tests The 60's were a different time, you had to be there.  We all know people that died, all of us.  One after another.


Not buying it.


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@KALLIE

 

I'll go with the SCOTUS.  They bought it.


GOOD for you, and I'll go with MY opinion.


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Hmmmmmm.  Let's see.  Who would make a more well informed and reasoned decision?  SCOTUS or... 

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@KALLIE wrote:

@shoekitty wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@bells4me wrote:

I had no respect for the man.  He refused to serve his country.  I was graduating high school and my dad had just returned from 18 months in Japan, his 3rd tour.  Some of my co students were enlisting, some were drafted and some lost their lives.  He got drafted, changed his name and refused.


^THIS.

 

Shoekitty said


 I think he truly was a conscientious objector.  I think his conversion was real.  It is hard to understand, but many people truly are believers in this philosophy.  My grandparents were born in Russia in the late 1800.  They were Molokan.  Molokan is sort of like Amish in a way.  They left Russia as the revolution was starting because of religious freedom.  I guess for years  they had an understanding with the Csar about serving, as Russia had a drafting policy. Then things changed and everyone was taken into service.  The came to america in 1910.    When my grandfather  had to registe rwith the US military , he declined to serve... it says" objector" on his form.  They did believe in what they did,  passionatly!

Cassius Clay was a blow heart, LOL!  it was his personality.  At the time his converting to Islam and rejecting the draft was a big deal in the news.  As the years passed, I think I came to believe he really believed in his religion, and what he did  I do not believe he converted to avoid the draft.  Besides in those days, because of the turmoil they scrutinized every objection, and that man went though a battery of psychological tests The 60's were a different time, you had to be there.  We all know people that died, all of us.  One after another.


Not buying it.


The Supreme Court did

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@Noel7 wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@Noel7 wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@shoekitty wrote:

@KALLIE wrote:

@bells4me wrote:

I had no respect for the man.  He refused to serve his country.  I was graduating high school and my dad had just returned from 18 months in Japan, his 3rd tour.  Some of my co students were enlisting, some were drafted and some lost their lives.  He got drafted, changed his name and refused.


^THIS.

 

Shoekitty said


 I think he truly was a conscientious objector.  I think his conversion was real.  It is hard to understand, but many people truly are believers in this philosophy.  My grandparents were born in Russia in the late 1800.  They were Molokan.  Molokan is sort of like Amish in a way.  They left Russia as the revolution was starting because of religious freedom.  I guess for years  they had an understanding with the Csar about serving, as Russia had a drafting policy. Then things changed and everyone was taken into service.  The came to america in 1910.    When my grandfather  had to registe rwith the US military , he declined to serve... it says" objector" on his form.  They did believe in what they did,  passionatly!

Cassius Clay was a blow heart, LOL!  it was his personality.  At the time his converting to Islam and rejecting the draft was a big deal in the news.  As the years passed, I think I came to believe he really believed in his religion, and what he did  I do not believe he converted to avoid the draft.  Besides in those days, because of the turmoil they scrutinized every objection, and that man went though a battery of psychological tests The 60's were a different time, you had to be there.  We all know people that died, all of us.  One after another.


Not buying it.


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@KALLIE

 

I'll go with the SCOTUS.  They bought it.


GOOD for you, and I'll go with MY opinion.


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Hmmmmmm.  Let's see.  Who would make a more well informed and reasoned decision?  SCOTUS or... 


YOU, of course.Woman LOL

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@Lila Belle wrote:
I've noticed a pattern. Anyone else?

YOU are SO very OBSERVANT.