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@StephfromIdaho wrote:

She continued to see him romantically after the incident.  


 

@StephfromIdaho

 

I seriously doubt that.   Andrea is gay.

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@RainCityWoman wrote:

I already replied on the other thread, but I am still wondering about Bill's wife Camille. I think she only showed up one day of the trial. I am curious if this is mainly a marriage of convenience or if she actually supports his "innocence." Doesn't he have at least one child out of his infidelity to her? I guess the money and the lifestyle are worth it to her?


The legal team runs the case. 

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With all the other women in the past saying the same thing, it is obvious he was up to no good.  It is just that in our legal system there are so many loop holes and ways to manipulate the process,  it allows people to get off  when they are guilty, and sadly convict some that are innocent. 

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@truffle wrote:

@NYC Susan wrote:

@truffle wrote:

The fact of the matter is, women were willing to place themselves in a compromising position in hopes to further their career. I also think many would have willingly slept with Cosby, quaaludes not needed. The outrage was being drugged instead of wined and dined.


You clearly do not know or understand the details.  Have you read anything about the other women who have come forward, and what happened to them?  If you have, then you must realize how far off the mark you are.

 

And being wined & dined is not at all the same as being drugged.  The outrage is appropriate.

 

This is just another example of blaming the victim  Or in this case, victims.  And there were a lot of them.  

 


Those women who desperately wanted to further their career knew that they were placing themselves in a compromising position that possibly meant sleeping with Cosby...what they didn't bargain for was being drugged and raped. @NYC Susan


Not all of the women were in the entertainment business, so your "furthering their career" comments are ridiculous.  I happen to be in that business, btw, and people meet and have drinks (in hotel rooms and elsewhere) all the time without it ending in rape and assault. 

 

What happened was not "sleeping with Cosby".  It makes me so angry to see it worded that way.  I witnessed this man and the way he treated women, and he is disgusting.  No euphemisms are needed.  It was rape.

 

Yes, they certainly didn't bargain on being drugged and raped.  And they didn't deserve for that to happen to them.  They are not at fault.  He is.  Over and over and over.

 

I would advise women to be careful when doing what some of these women did.  But I would never fault the victim.  They did not consent to having sex - It was forced upon them.  He knew it was wrong, he knew it was legally wrong and morally wrong.  But he did it anyway because he was so impressed with himself that he thought he would get away with it.  

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@Noel7

 

It kinda looks like the " law"  isn't getting anywhere by disagreeing ,doesn't it.....

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I am wondering why Cosby's wife, Camille, only showed up in court one time according to the news coverage. After the mis-trial was announced, a member of the defense team (a woman) read a statement from Cosby's wife.  She blasted the judge, defense team and the media.  In view of the fact that the prosecution has already said they would re-try the case, that wasn't too smart.  The media coverage said that the same defense team and the judge would be the same in the next trial. Cosby seemed to be walking just fine after the trial was over.  Not surprising at all.  Gloria Allred said she would be trying Cosby in a civil suit in Santa Monica, Ca. near the end of June. 

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@MalteseMomma wrote:

@Noel7

 

It kinda looks like the " law"  isn't getting anywhere by disagreeing ,doesn't it.....


 

@MalteseMomma

 

I'm not sure what you're saying, but we know for sure more rapists are going to jail now than ever before, and female victims are usually treated much better than ever before. 

 

Sure, there are some judges who haven't caught up, but for the most part they pay for it by not getting reelected.

 

If you'd care to explain what you meant, I'd be happy to comment.

 

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@truffle wrote:

@NYC Susan wrote:

@truffle wrote:

The fact of the matter is, women were willing to place themselves in a compromising position in hopes to further their career. I also think many would have willingly slept with Cosby, quaaludes not needed. The outrage was being drugged instead of wined and dined.


You clearly do not know or understand the details.  Have you read anything about the other women who have come forward, and what happened to them?  If you have, then you must realize how far off the mark you are.

 

And being wined & dined is not at all the same as being drugged.  The outrage is appropriate.

 

This is just another example of blaming the victim  Or in this case, victims.  And there were a lot of them.  

 


Those women who desperately wanted to further their career knew that they were placing themselves in a compromising position that possibly meant sleeping with Cosby...what they didn't bargain for was being drugged and raped. @NYC Susan


@truffle

 

In this specific case, Andrea works at Temple University, Cosby's alma mater, and he was a VERY big deal to them back then .... a god.    Getting an appointment to talk to him about career advice ..... a man who had a solid reputation for helping people, wasn't comparable to a starlet trying to land a movie role.   Apples and oranges comparisons here.

 

When the civil suit ended, a settlement was made because he was GUILTY and paid money in hopes of buying her silence for his evil deed.  Under oath he admitted to drugging and raping her, as well as using quaaludes for having sex with other women.   He admitted to doing so.   

 

Unfortunately for him, the D.A. in Pennsylvania didn't agree to be silent, and that's when they realized the statute of limitations had not yet passed on this case.   

 

I think if they had been able to bring in many other victims to testify in front of the jury, one at a time, the outcome would have been much different.  

 

IMO, regardless of their age, predators should be thrown in jail .... and then throw away the key!   Buh bye!

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@WORKING GAL wrote:

I am wondering why Cosby's wife, Camille, only showed up in court one time according to the news coverage. After the mis-trial was announced, a member of the defense team (a woman) read a statement from Cosby's wife.  She blasted the judge, defense team and the media.  In view of the fact that the prosecution has already said they would re-try the case, that wasn't too smart.  The media coverage said that the same defense team and the judge would be the same in the next trial. Cosby seemed to be walking just fine after the trial was over.  Not surprising at all.  Gloria Allred said she would be trying Cosby in a civil suit in Santa Monica, Ca. near the end of June. 


@WORKING GAL

 

Yes, I saw that ... Camille was there only one day ... for the defense's presentation, which only lasted 6 minutes.   Her comments were very unwise, seeing as this whole thing isn't nearly over yet.

 

Interesting that suddenly BC can see, and doesn't need a cane.   He's been fooling people his whole life.

 

SO glad that Gloria Allred is going up against him .....   she's a real shark in the court room!  

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Why do some women blame the victims?

 

Victim Blaming

One reason people blame a victim is to distance themselves from an unpleasant occurrence and thereby confirm their own invulnerability to the risk. By labeling or accusing the victim, others can see the victim as different from themselves. People reassure themselves by thinking, "Because I am not like her, because I do not do that, this would never happen to me." We need to help people understand that this is not a helpful reaction.

 

http://www.southernct.edu/sexual-misconduct/facts.html