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@Venezia wrote:

@Puppy Lips wrote:

@JaneMarple wrote:

@Puppy Lips wrote:

Frankly, I think I would want my OWN, NEW ring, not some hand me down that I would never feel was really mine.  I hope they have a long and happy life together.  

 

And just as a side note between us, I always thought Harry looked more like the guy Diana was fooling around with, the Polo instructor, than Charles.


Harry looks like the Spencer family!


Okay, okay, I give.  But that other guy did have red hair.  And there was speculation at the time, of who the real father was.


Why do people keep forgetting that she didn't get involved with "the other guy" until after Harry was born?  Quite a while after!


 

 

They're choosing to believe selective titillating rumors and unsubstantiated gossip because...titillating and "scandalous" is so much more fun to tut-tut at. 

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A car crash in a tunnel, reporters all over on motorbikes, a driver who had alcohol in his system, taking more than an hour to get Diana to hospital (they didn't take her to the closest facility)......just a few of the facts that don't add up.

 

Let us not forget, Charles wanted to marry Camilla, and, it would be far easier with Diana out of the way.  I have always believed Prince Philip had a hand in this.


Oh dear.  Are you seriously accusing Prince Phillip of premeditated murder? 

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I read prior to William's wedding that all of the royal wedding bands have been made with Cloghi (sp??) gold for centuries.  Not quite sure of the significance except for tradition.

 

Most of European engagement rings have precious gemstones other than diamonds as the main stone.  

 

I find it wonderful that both William and Harry actually love Catherine and Meghan.

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Oh my @kivah, were you there at the conception then?  You seem so sure that Charles is not Harry's father I assume you were there.  

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Differcult wrap ones head around the possibility. Diana's so called accident was premeditated. Yes, Possibility exists. Deceptions in the name of righteousness can be traced to very start of mankind. Powerful governments have the means and know how to get the job done. The subject could be discussed on without end.
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I think the the older Prince Harry becomes, the more he resembles his father. I see a strong resemblance, especially   through the forehead, brow line and eyes. He definitely has the Spencer complexion and hair. 

 

I personally hope hope the rumor is true that he will have an engagement ring made using a piece of Diana's jewelry. I can imagine that would be most meaningful to him, as it was to William. 

 

I wish Harry much happiness in his future, with Meghan or whoever he chooses to spend his life with. He does seem to be incredibly happy and seems to have found himself in the past year. ❤️ these young men. 

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@grandma r wrote:

I read prior to William's wedding that all of the royal wedding bands have been made with Cloghi (sp??) gold for centuries.  Not quite sure of the significance except for tradition.

 

Most of European engagement rings have precious gemstones other than diamonds as the main stone.  

 

I find it wonderful that both William and Harry actually love Catherine and Meghan.


 

 

The British royal wedding band tradition is that they're made with gold mined in Wales, which has a cult following in the way that Black Hills Gold does.

 

Kate's 18K plain gold band is made of Welsh gold. 

 

From the BBC News website:

 

"When Prince William places a Welsh gold wedding ring onto Kate Middleton's finger, he'll be replicating an 88-year-old tradition dating back to the marriage of his great-grandparents, Elizabeth Bowes Lyon and the future George VI.

 

In 1923, the royal ring was fashioned from a gift of Clogau gold with enough left over for the weddings of The Queen in 1947 as well as those of the late Princess Margaret, the Princess Royal and the 1981 marriage of Prince Charles and Diana.


The stock of the original Clogau gift is believed to be almost exhausted, having been replenished over the years with donations from several other Welsh mines.
Clarence House is remaining tight lipped over the precise source of the Welsh gold for Kate's wedding band.


In a statement to dispel speculation and confusing merchandising, the palace announced: "The wedding ring that Catherine Middleton will wear will be made of Welsh gold. The gold was given to Prince William by The Queen shortly after the couple were engaged."


"It has been in the family's possession for some years and has been in the care of the royal jewellers. There are no further details on which mine the gold was mined from."
It's really an 'emperor's new clothes' vanity', as it's visually and very nearly chemically indistinguishable; gold is gold is gold.

 

"Yet that hasn't stopped people jumping on the Welsh gold bandwagon; with four shopping channels listing Welsh gold sales for the royal wedding period, and airlines and duty-free shops stocking up for an anticipated holiday rush.

 

Although Ms Middleton's ring is made of Welsh gold, it's not clear from source it has been made, with at least three gifts to the royal family over the last century.
But just how similar to Kate's ring is the Welsh gold on offer to the public? And what's so special about Welsh gold anyway?

 

Dr Mike Bassett, expert in minerals and mining, said: "From its discovery by the Romans, up until when the colonial gold rushes of the 19th Century opened up new sources, the gold produced in Wales played a reasonable part in the British economy; though it was never regarded as anything distinct from gold in general."


"Welsh gold only became fashionable when the Queen Mother chose it for her wedding ring in 1923.


"But it's really an 'Emperor's new clothes' vanity, as it's visually and very nearly chemically indistinguishable; gold is gold is gold."


Indeed, how royal and how Welsh the gold products currently being marketed are, is a tangled web of claim and counter-claim.


Last week, the Clogau gold company, which now owns the trading name and a quantity of gold from the defunct Clogau St David's mine, retracted a press release after an over-enthusiastic press officer claimed the company were to create Kate's wedding ring.


WELSH GOLD AND THE ROYALS

A gift of Clogau gold, dating from the closure of the Clogau St David's mine in 1911 went into wedding rings for The Queen Mother, The Queen, Princess Margaret, Princess Royal and Diana.  36gm of Welsh gold of unknown origin, gifted by the Royal British Legion went into the making of the ring worn by Sarah, Duchess of York (1986)
1kg of Welsh gold from the Gwynfynydd mine, presented to the Queen on her 60th birthday in 1986. This may be source of gold for rings for the Earl and Countess of Wessex in June 1999.


But whilst Clogau Gold moved quickly to scotch any confusion, they stand by what they say is their unique selling-point, that their rings are made from "the same Welsh gold as Kate's".


Dr Bassett says whilst this could well be the case, would-be Kate Middletons still ought to be careful, as the only way of proving it for definite could be costly.


"The royal stocks of Welsh gold have become so mixed up over the years, that I don't think even they themselves can have much degree of certainty over its precise origins any more," he said.


"If Kate, and the other brides would like to give up their wedding rings for melting down and isotopic analysis of the numbers of neutrons per atom, we'd be able to get to the bottom of whether they came from the same Clogau mine.


"However I suspect that it's likely to remain a fascinating debate for the pub."


But the questions remains as to how to guarantee the Welshness of the gold.
The last working gold mine in north Wales, Gwynfynydd, closed in 1998; although extractions on anything close to a commercial basis ceased with the closure of Clogau near Dolgellau in 1911. And with the world supply of Welsh gold ingots now believed to leave room to spare in an overnight bag, managing director of Clogau Gold Ben Roberts explains that they have to ration it to just "a touch" in each item of jewellery. "We make no apologies about the small amount of Welsh gold that we put into each and every piece of our jewellery," he said.


"The precise amount is a common question but one that we try not to stipulate because it puts us on the hook to continue using the same percentage and it's one which might be subject to change in the future depending on supplies (although at present we have no plans to change the mix)."


Mr Roberts added: "We do however put a guarantee that all of our jewellery does contain our own gold and indeed we keep a very clear and concise audit trail to prove this."

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Harry looks nothing like Charles. Thank God.
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Yuck, I'd want my own ring.  I hope she's prepared if she chooses to enter this dysfunctional family.

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