Meghan Started Young - Page 6

Shawnie · ‎03-10-2010

@Laura14 wrote:
@Shawnie wrote:
@Laura14 wrote:
@bathina I agree with her probably being an emotionally intelligent child which it seems she was but I think it is important to keep perspective that a 12 year old child is still a child. There is plenty to praise her on without going overboard.

No child at this age has the life experience or ability to reason so abstractly with societal stereotypes tied into corporate marketing plans which is the fundamental basis of even being able to form your own opinion.

More probable reality is an adult made a comment and she acted on it in a way that was encouraged because it expressed a favorable point of her view in her household. Imitation is how kids learn and obviously she did.

I do not agree with you. At about the same age, I was 12 and decades before Miss Markle, I remember thinking it was not fair that my mother had to ask my father for money. I also demanded that household chores be evenly divided between me and my brother. No woman's work solely for the girl in the family. I watched tv and remember thinking It wasn't right the way family roles were portrayed. I also was offended that the Indians were always the bad guys. Now I didn't write to anyone at that age, but I had the thoughts and put them into action in my world. And the life experience was all around me. My views grew stronger as I got out into the work world and corporate America tried to treat me less than the men. Wasn't happening, and it didn't. The 12 year old child in me said No. So yes, I do believe that Miss Markle, the 12 year old had these ideas in her own right.
@Shawnie You had those ideas because you were taught your worth by the adults around you. And you said it yourself that your views grew stronger as you got older. That's my point. Children imitiate the values being taught to them but they don't come into their own with literally their own minds until they are much older.

I still don't agree. I was certainly loved but my worth was being channeled into a narrow valley that I rejected because I saw inequality in that role as a 12 year old. I was not encouraged to see my world this way, I just did. I think if I was a today's child raised on social media and 24/7 marketing I too would have been sending emails and posting about marketing etc.

Ms tyrion2 · ‎05-08-2017

@Laura14 wrote:
@bathina I'm not missing any point. I'm not saying a 12 year old can't think for themselves. What I am saying is the maturity and life experience to fully comprehend gender and societal issues especially in relation to a corporate marketing campaign is just not there yet.

I have to disagree with you too, @Laura14.

The last couple of generations had a bounty of information due to a huge internet exposure. People over 40 simply did not have the wealth of information as they grew up. Societal issues were discussed in schools at a much earlier age than in previous generations. They learn about racism, sexual issues, and gender issues much earlier.

By 12 years old, opinions can and do form. Yes, those opinions round out and richen with age and experience, but they are there.

I was in junior high in the late 60s. By 12, my opinions on recial equality had already begun to solidly form. If I'd had the internet, you bet I would have been active on it.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@Ms tyrion2 There was no internet when she was 12 and you do not need an internet for information. I lived on encyclopedias and books which are far more accurate than any internet page today. Most of what they are "learning" off of the internet are very one sided and distorted points of view IMO.

When I was a kid, I was having seminars with teen parents, actual criminals speaking against drugs, Planned Parenthood, and disability workshops and my health class consisted of discussions of real sex ed, euthaniasia and racial relations with the interracial parents of one of my friends coming in to speak to us about "unusual" families and discuss.

This was the 1980s and my middle/high schools were way ahead of its time. I have often lamented that most of those educational programs that taught me so much would be banned today because heaven forbid we teach our children anything other than what we want spoon fed to them.

Frankly I think children are more sheltered psychologically today than they ever were and they are worse off for it.

No 12 year old fully grasps adult concepts anymore than a 5 year old fully understands death.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@Shawnie You can see the inequality and speak out against as a 12 year old but you don't have full realization of the underlying motives, subtleties, and agendas also going on underneath until you mature and that is just a fact.

Ms tyrion2 · ‎05-08-2017

@Laura14 wrote:
@Ms tyrion2 There was no internet when she was 12 and you do not need an internet for information. I lived on encyclopedias and books which are far more accurate than any internet page today. Most of what they are "learning" off of the internet are very one sided and distorted points of view IMO.

When I was a kid, I was having seminars with teen parents, actual criminals speaking against drugs,

Planned Parenthood, and disability workshops and my health class consisted of discussions of real sex eeuthaniasia and racial relations with the interracial parents of one of my friends coming in to speak to us about "unusual" families and discuss.

This was the 1980s and my middle/high schools were way ahead of its time. I have often lamented that most of those educational programs that taught me so much would be banned today because heaven forbid we teach our children anything other than what we want spoon fed to them.

Frankly I think children are more sheltered psychologically today than they ever were and they are worse off for it.

No 12 year old fully grasps adult concepts anymore than a 5 year old fully understands death.

@Laura14
The world wide web came to be in 1990. Meghan was 12 in 1992 or 1993.

No one said she formed adult opinions at 12.

this is my nic · ‎03-30-2010

You are correct! The human brain continues to develop until the mid 20's. Here are the facts:

The prefrontal cortex is at the front of your brain. This area is important for decision making, reasoning, inhibitory control & personality. In fact the prefrontal cortex is the last area to finishing developing in you. It will be mature by your 20s, later for boys.

That is what science tells us.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

@Ms tyrion2 Real people didn't get the internet and it certainly was not the internet as we know it today until the late 90s. 1993 was still the world of WordPerfect and Pascal. I know because Bill Gates totally made me obsolete the moment I graduated college with this new thing called Windows.

Shawnie · ‎03-10-2010

@Laura14 wrote:
@Shawnie You can see the inequality and speak out against as a 12 year old but you don't have full realization of the underlying motives, subtleties, and agendas also going on underneath until you mature and that is just a fact.

I don't think anyone said that Miss Markle or myself as examples were voicing fully formed adult opinions at 12. What we did say was that both of us saw issues at that age and acted upon them, and, those views were not absent as we grew.

Ms tyrion2 · ‎05-08-2017

@Laura14 wrote:
@Ms tyrion2 Real people didn't get the internet and it certainly was not the internet as we know it today until the late 90s. 1993 was still the world of WordPerfect and Pascal. I know because Bill Gates totally made me obsolete the moment I graduated college with this new thing called Windows.

Your statement was, there was no internet in the early 90s @Laura14.

As you see, that was incorrect. None of us know what sources of information Meghan had in 1993. It's silly to argue about it.