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[pitdakota]

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@Snowpuppy wrote:

For anyone interested, there is training video called "Run, Hide, Fight" and was produced by Houston PD that addresses this type of situation.

It's out on YT. Highly acclaimed by law enforcement. It's only a few minutes long.

If you watch, please pay special attention to when first responders arrive. They do not evacuate or treat wounded. Their first mission is to take out the gunman.

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@Snowpuppy, I looked up the video and will post a link here since there are many and this is the one from Houston.  I think youtube videos are allowed?   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcSwejU2D0 

[patbz]

From the cursory info so far given about shooter I hope this is not a case of terrorism; that's the only thing that could make this situation worse than it is already.

[skatting44]

 More info  coming out  by the Shooters Brother  via interview  with the  Daily Beast reporter .  Guess, we will all slowly hear  how  all these senless murders could have been  avoided   as we learn more abt the 21 yr old  shooter , Ahmed Al Issa  . Authorities say it may take a year  to complete this investigation .

[hckynut]

@agb80 

Limit production of ammunition while there are still over 10 million without jobs? And who do you think will still get all the ammo they need, just as they do the mass killing drugs coming from XYZ?  

Will never understand why some want to take away the rights of others because they do not get the "protecting yourself and others". And those that ignore long list of existing laws are somehow going to follow new ones? 

Just getting a gun and registering it is not cost free. For those of us on fixed incomes it falls under "expensive". Then to get a Permit to Carry? A lot more $$$ along with training to use it safely and efficiently, more $$$.

Remember pricing out cigarette smoking? I do, and I remember $.25 a pack machines. Not sure how many $$$ it is for a pack now, but I still see a lot of smokers.

hckynut 

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[MorningLover]

The 21 year old shooters now-deleted Facebook page said he was “born in Syria and came to the USA in 2002.” the Daily Beast reports.

[skatting44]

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@PamfromCT wrote:

Connecticut made some positive changes after Sandy Hook.

I have no problem with someone going through a background check and purchasing a “suitable” weapon.  These assault weapons are weapons of war.  I have heard ex-soldiers say they are not civilian weapons.  All victims in Colorado were killed.  No one injured.  I guess these weapons are very efficient, as they must be on a battlefield.

I feel so much sorrow for innocent victims and their families.

And the brave officer, who prevented much loss, leaving seven children.  May God help us all.

per WIKIPEDIa   abt Sandy Hook  shooting by " Adam Lanza

The report went on to say, "his severe and deteriorating internalized mental health problems ... combined with an atypical preoccupation with violence ... (and) access to deadly weapons ... proved a recipe for mass murder". "

Was anything else done in CT to provide more  help to those  with  health issues  . The gun was owned by his Mother who reports that she had been taking him to a rifle range . I never heard as to if she had not l kept her  firearms in a secure locked case . I know I heard he had killed his Mother first and she was in the process of getting  him re commited to an inpt  mental health facility fot treatment . I nver understood as to why she would take him to a rifle range  as he had prior  health care for issues .

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[Lali1]

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@Shanus wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

You can kill with a handgun, a brick, a box knife, a bayonet, a bomb from a pressure cooker, a car, a whiskey bottle, or a flower vase.

It is an attitude that kills, not a weapon.  It is revenge, jealousy, hatred, fear, mental illness, arrogance, rejection, envy or lots of other things.  It is that someone has decided they have a right to take a life, or they have no empathy or morality or an "I'll show them." 

It is some desire that is unfulfilled very often.  It is often "that should have been mine."

Whether it is a rock, or a uzi or a shovel, it's the same end result. 

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@Sooner   I agree, but it's more difficult with your examples to walk into a supermarket or school or spa and gun down loads of people at once. 

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We have seen people mowed down in vehicles. We have seen bombs we have seen it all. Anyone remember the Oklahoma City bombing? 

[hckynut]

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@goldensrbest wrote:

There seems to be no answer to stopping this evil, we all are at risk of being shot,by some deranged human.

@goldensrbest 

Yep, life is full of risks.  I go with the odds when it comes to my chances of being chopped up by a sword or shot. Now my odds when I get on the Roadway in my motor vehicle?  My chances are greatly increased of getting injured or killed.

There are answers, I just don't think I am smart enough to find them. I know what some deem to be answers, are factually not, just conjecture.

Stay well,

hckynut 

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[skatting44]

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@happycat wrote:

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@Mersha wrote:

Another day, another mass killing in the US.

I thought after Sandy Hook we would attempt to work together to try to eliminate as many issues as possible to avoid more killings.  Sadly, that was not the case.

Of course there is mental illness in this country, just as there is in every other country in the world and, yet, the US always leads in mass shootings.

WHY?

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And along with mental illness, we have a lot of sheer hate, seems like in this country. Its scary.

Any of us could be in an unfortunate place, the next time there is one of these shootings. In my opinion, these shootings are being carried out in more places that are the norm. I have never been in a night club, but I was in a Wal Mart just yesterday.

What are we suppose to do, if we are in a store and someone starts shooting? Do we run, do we hide, or just what are we suppose to do?

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@happycat 

All I can tell you is my co-workers and I do yearly training on mass shooting incidents. It's called Run, Hide, Fight.

The first thing you do is Run out of the building.

If you can't get out, you Hide.

Hide in a room, turn off lights and cell phones, and barricade the door, and be as quiet as possible.

If you can't hide, then you Fight. Use whatever you can as a weapon against the shooter. Throw things at the shooter.

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 If you see something Say Somenthing  as this can save someone's life or your own .

Keep aware of your surrounding .