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03-16-2021 05:43 PM
@Sage04 wrote:
@tansy wrote:It is a crying 😭 shame that this is such a polarizing issue. It didn't need to be that way.
@tansy you really had me going. Couldn't remember what the word "polarizing" meant. I kept saying polarizing, polarizing. I had to google it. lol
My brain has turned to mush (I'll say mulch) just had some delivered.
LOL...I wanted to use another word but...
03-16-2021 05:44 PM
@SaggingGal wrote:
We are at high risk for Covid because of our age. We live in a resort area that has been mostly shut down for the winter. We have stayed in our home except for essential errands since March 2020. Only one to two errands at the most per week to lessen exposure. We wear nitrile gloves and double mask outside of the home esp. grocery shopping and getting gas. I grocery shop at early bird hours usually 6:30 to 7:00 a.m. We take off our clothes on the screened in porch and shower ASAP when entering the home after any errand and launder our clothes after a 24 hour wait. Nothing enters the home after an errand but a dash into the shower being sure not to touch anything on the way to the bathroom. All pulls and light switches and faucets and door handles are washed several times a day. We typically talk with a delivery driver or neighbor through the front window.
We both got vaccinated this past week. My husband was fine but I am having a bad reaction unlike the first shot a month ago. I only had a sore arm then. I got a fever within 24 hours and have the chills and nausea, an expected reaction for some but dreadful nevertheless. Sleep has been the best medicine.
Today a couple my husband worked with before retirement showed up on the front deck to say Hi. They are vacationing here since it is warming up. Neither had a mask on. They crowded close to my unmasked husband all standing outside the front door. I saw no one had a mask on so I handed one quickly to my husband. They stood maybe 3 feet apart reminiscing and walking around the property that abuts a nature conservancy. In essence my husband gave them a tour standing right next to them for about a half hour.
I am both frightened and angry he forgot social distancing protocol as if everything is normal again. The visitors are both a good fifteen years younger and made no effort to mask or stand back. The male visitor had Covid in Sept. and his wife works in a hospital, both perfect candidates for Covid carriers. Despite my best efforts to stay away from others I am a victim of his poor judgment and their lack of respect for us as a higher risk age bracket. He was simply too close to them for too long. He said he did not want to bother them to ask them to wear a mask. Putting us both at risk I am furious with him. I am still going through my harsh reaction to the vaccine. My husband's dear friend is a retired M.D. and even he stays masked and six feet away from others at all times. So now I worry if we will get Covid as I recuperate from the vaccine yesterday. I even had my husband wash our dogs since both visitors petted them for half the visit. Of course my husband let them out despite my efforts to keep them inside. Transmission of Covid to humans via pets is real and has been documented. So I live in fear of Covid now for us. Staying away from each other while quarantining is not easy. Do you find you are getting lax about Covid protocol?Would you mask up inside for two weeks to be safe?
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Ahhh @SaggingGal, husbands....right!?!
I think you will be fine without having to mask indoors around your husband. Your husband is vaccinated even though it was recent and he was outdoors, so that is on your side.
If you are comfortable with it, the science has now yielded information that contact transmission is not a major mode of transmission with this virus. The major mode of transmission is respiratory droplet with unmasked people talking, laughing, coughing, etc. Being in poorly ventilated spaces with other unmasked individuals is no doubt a major risk. So your clothing and articles you bring in from outside are probably really safe.
Of course, I still wipe down my grocery cart and use disinfectant wipes to wipe down light switches, etc. maybe once a week because one of the positive things we have seen with individuals such as yourself practicing the kinds of strategies you have been using is that cases of influenza and norovirus have just fallen off a cliff.
03-16-2021 06:35 PM - edited 03-16-2021 08:47 PM
We are fully vaccinated and now feel safe being around others who we know are fully vaccinated. Out in public it's still masks and social distancing. Why? Because until about 80% of the population has been fully vaccinated, the risk remains (I believe we are only currently at around 21%). And with the variant wreaking havoc in Europe, we need to be very concerned about that happening here just like when the virus was rampant in Europe the first time around then came here.
I follow the medical experts and the science. I am concerned about the variants. The public has been advised not to do any non-essential travel (especially flying) for the next 2 months. I am concerned about the spring breakers. This can turn around at any moment with stupid behaviors.
03-16-2021 06:44 PM
@Deree -
You pretty much just stated everything that the cdc director tonight was"pleading' with people to keep vigilant and keep protecting themselves.
Canada has seen a spike and 14 US states now have an increase.
Europe has had to lock down again in places because of a 3rd wave.
They are very worrried about the variants which are more contageous and more deadly.
We can really turn this around if we all work together on this.
It is no longer time to have all these varying degrees of safety.
They are advising-wear a mask.
Keep our distance from those outside our family, etc.
So so easy to do to save our own life and so many others.
We can do this together.
I don't want to see our nation follow with all the ones now having more and more cases when they had started to see cases improve.
No one wants to prolong this nightmare.
03-16-2021 07:33 PM - edited 03-16-2021 08:13 PM
@Lali1 wrote:
@KKJ wrote:
Amen prettychis!The shut up and do as your told bunch make me wonder what will be the next thing they try to force others to do. They should focus on criminals, drunk drivers those who won't follow actual laws.
You don’t want a vaccine, you don’t want to wear a mask, I’m fine with that. I have no vested responsibility for your well-being.
I think masks and vaccines are the way to make it into a future without COVID. But, please, do your thing.
I believe You know many here are NOT trying to force you to do either of those things. But your saying it makes a good sound bite for you, you can cry, “Victim”.
I do wish those without vaccines, or masks would stay 6 feet away from me, and others who are making an effort To do what we think is best foe us.
That seems easy enough, but I guess, crying ~
‘They want us to stay 6 feet away from them’!!!!
Sounds pretty pathetic.
03-16-2021 08:05 PM
@Drythe wrote:
@Lali1 wrote:
@KKJ wrote:
Amen prettychis!The shut up and do as your told bunch make me wonder what will be the next thing they try to force others to do. They should focus on criminals, drunk drivers those who won't follow actual laws.
You don’t want a vaccine, you don’t want to wear a mask, I’m fine with that, I have no vested responsibility for your well-being.
I think masks and vaccines are the way to make it into a future without COVID. But, please, do your thing.
You know many here are NOT trying to force you to do either of those things. But it makes a good sound bite for you say, so you can cry Victim.
I do wish those without vaccines, or masks would stay 6 feet away from me, and others who are making an effort To do what we think is best.
That seems easy enough, but I guess, crying ~
‘They want us to stay 6 feet away from them’!!!!
Sounds pretty pathetic.
I don't want to wear a mask but I do. No one is crying victim but those who constantly repeat you don't do what we want then you're trying to kill people. Don't lump me into your group of people not doing what they must. I stay home and I do wear a mask but I'll be darned if anyone is going to tell me to get the vaccine when I don't feel right about it. Please ignore my posts from here on out because you clearly know nothing about me.
03-16-2021 08:20 PM - edited 03-16-2021 08:22 PM
I would hope that everyone wants the same thing, but i guess not. Let's not send this Thread six feet under.
Oh wow, did I really say that. Guess i did.
03-16-2021 08:26 PM
To be clear:
No where did I say you are trying to kill people
No where did I say you should wear a mask
I absolutely did not say you should get vaccinated.
Do not try to speak for me.
As for further conversation - same goes.
@Lali1 wrote:
@Drythe wrote:
@Lali1 wrote:
@KKJ wrote:
Amen prettychis!The shut up and do as your told bunch make me wonder what will be the next thing they try to force others to do. They should focus on criminals, drunk drivers those who won't follow actual laws.
You don’t want a vaccine, you don’t want to wear a mask, I’m fine with that, I have no vested responsibility for your well-being.
I think masks and vaccines are the way to make it into a future without COVID. But, please, do your thing.
You know many here are NOT trying to force you to do either of those things. But it makes a good sound bite for you say, so you can cry Victim.
I do wish those without vaccines, or masks would stay 6 feet away from me, and others who are making an effort To do what we think is best.
That seems easy enough, but I guess, crying ~
‘They want us to stay 6 feet away from them !!!
Sounds pretty pathetic.
I don't want to wear a mask but I do. No one is crying victim but those who constantly repeat you don't do what we want then you're trying to kill people. Don't lump me into your group of people not doing what they must. I stay home and I do wear a mask but I'll be darned if anyone is going to tell me to get the vaccine when I don't feel right about it. Please ignore my posts from here on out because you clearly know nothing about me.
03-16-2021 08:52 PM
@Porcelain No, no. I was not hoping anything. I was just looking at the facts. In the face of this virus and other future pandemics the anti-science folks and their decendents will tend to be the ones killed off. Over several generations there will be survival of the science people.
03-16-2021 08:59 PM
@teganslaw wrote:
@just bee wrote:I'm a psychiatric nurse and, frankly, I'm more concerned about what this is doing to our minds rather than the actual virus itself.
I'm not a nurse, but I agree with this statement. The mindset of some can be just as bad as the virus itself.
@teganslaw @just bee
I too am very concerned as are very many doctors.
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