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[gardenman]

The cost of housing the families is pretty small compared to the costs of operating an airline. They could afford to do it indefinitely if they chose to.

There are just a ton of unanswered questions about this whole thing that just don't add up. There are four beacons on the plane that should have gone off on contact with salt water that would have notified a satellite that the plane had crashed. None of those went off. It takes 50 seconds for those beacons to complete the action though so if the plane sank in less time than that, it could be explained. Of course, to sink in less than fifty seconds would require a pretty direct impact shattering the fuselage which should have released enormous amounts of floating debris. Now they're no longer looking for floating debris despite having seen large fields fo floating debris earlier that they didn't wait to get a look at.

This has been about as bungled a search operation as you could ever hope to witness.

[colliegirls]

On 5/1/2014 happy housewife said:

Well, there comes a time when people , though they will personally keep hoping the plane did land and they are alive, have to get back to their own lives and start rebuilding without that loved one. A friend of ours was widowed last summer - the day after her DH's funeral she said to me that she finally understands what the saying TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF YOUR LIFE really meant. At some point these families have to start the rest of their lives.And it is past time for that to happen, IMO.

I cannot believe that anyone who loses a loved one thinks that the next day is the FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. For many, their lives are changed forever, there is no getting over some losses, some losses last a lifetime. Certainly, for any parents who lost their child in that crash, they will never think of this time as a beginning. They will barely be able to cling to their own life.

[Yuban3]

On 5/2/2014 colliegirls said:

On 5/1/2014 happy housewife said:

Well, there comes a time when people , though they will personally keep hoping the plane did land and they are alive, have to get back to their own lives and start rebuilding without that loved one. A friend of ours was widowed last summer - the day after her DH's funeral she said to me that she finally understands what the saying TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF YOUR LIFE really meant. At some point these families have to start the rest of their lives.And it is past time for that to happen, IMO.

I cannot believe that anyone who loses a loved one thinks that the next day is the FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. For many, their lives are changed forever, there is no getting over some losses, some losses last a lifetime. Certainly, for any parents who lost their child in that crash, they will never think of this time as a beginning. They will barely be able to cling to their own life.

True, but their lives will go on. They will learn to live with a new "normal". They will still have to go to work. They still will have to take care of their families. They will still have to grocery shop. They will still have to pay bills. The world isn't going to suddenly stop simply because their loved one died on that plane, and hasn't been found.

Will the pain ever completely 100% go away? No, of course not. I don't think anyone is saying that it will. But you learn to live with it. The sharpness and intensity of the pain will lessen over time. But the ache will always be there.

I highly, seriously doubt that there will be people curled up in the fetal position, wailing and beating their chests 27/7/365.

Look at all the people who lost loved ones on 9-11. Did they stop living their lives on that horrible, horrible day? No, they didn't.

Are they still curled up in the fetal position, wailing away and beating their chests, almost 13 years later? No, they're not.

Does that mean that the hurt and pain has gone away 100% for those loved ones?

No, it doesn't.

I'm sure that they still ache for their lost loved ones to this very day, and will for the rest of their lives.

They learned to live with a new "normal".

And don't forget, not every single, last body was found, either.

The same will hold true for the families who lost loved ones on flight 370.

They too will learn how to go on with their lives, without their loved one(s) in it.

Even though the ache will NEVER go away 100%.

[RainCityGirl]

On 5/1/2014 Lila Belle said:

On 5/1/2014 hckynut said:

On 5/1/2014 Lila Belle said:

I don't for one minute believe that anyone will give up trying to find the plane or black box.

After all, it took 2 years or so to find the French plane.

You giving up on the theory that it might have landed somewhere and we may see a repainted version of it when we least expect it?

I'm not been convinced by anyone or anything that it didn't land somewhere. Look how many years Osama was in Pak. before it was done in. Wouldn't put any thing past this country and seems like they get a coupe bill($$$$)from us every year.

Huh ?

Double huh. The logic or should I say illogic here is astounding.

[hckynut]

On 5/1/2014 Lila Belle said:

You giving up on the theory that it might have landed somewhere and we may see a repainted version of it when we least expect it?

I'm not been convinced by anyone or anything that it didn't land somewhere. Look how many years Osama was in Pak. before it was done in. Wouldn't put any thing past this country and seems like they get a coupe bill($$$$)from us every year.

Huh ?

Huh, to your Huh. Here was osama with that certain country not being able to find him and I'll be danged if he wasn't living for years right next door to one of their big military facilities. Sure, they didn't have a clue where he was, and I still believe in the big guy in the sky with the red suit and a big gray beard! Wait, that could be me if I were 100+lbs heavier.

[millieshops]

Without speculating, without placing any blame, I just want to say that as someone who loves to travel, I really hate to think the planes/companies/countries to whom I trust my life may not be consistently monitoring what goes on as I fly.

I fully believe there is no way to live a life totally without risks, but I have learned from following the reports on Flight 370 that the risks are much greater than I ever realized.

I do think Malaysia and others will continue their search and it's okay with me if they ask the grieving families to go home and try to establish the routine they will need going forward. I say this in all sympathy because I do not believe for even a half second that their loved ones are alive anywhere. I just want answers for them and also for us who are future travelers.

[MickD]

I thought I had heard that it was the various Malaysian Airline centers (regarding 370 info) in Bejing that were closing. Anyway, I think the Malaysian authorities have a difficult time being empathetic toward the families and come across as the opposite. How about leaving one center open??

[terrier3]

Yuban -

You got it right!

Look at Maureen, selling her TSV today. She lost her DH on 9/11, yet she continued living and turned her business into a huge success.

The finest tribute you can pay, IMO, to those who have gone before us, is to remember the good times, honor their memories, and value every precious moment of life.

It's what they would want us to do.

[glb613]

I'm sure those who need to have a spouse declared dead wishes the airliner was found.

[pitdakota]

On 5/2/2014 Evansmom said:

On 5/1/2014 birddrops said:

On 5/1/2014 Lila Belle said:

I don't for one minute believe that anyone will give up trying to find the plane or black box.

After all, it took 2 years or so to find the French plane.

It did not take two years to find Air France Flight 447. The wreckage and partial recovery was done within five days. It did take two years to recover the black boxes. There are still about fifty bodies down there that they are not able to recover.

That's true.

Well it is not exactly true. They did find just a few things of debris and a few bodies of Flight 447 quickly, but they didn't find the bulk of the plane for 2 years. And that was in the case that they knew they lost contact with the plane within 15 minutes to when it was to enter someone else's airspace (I forget whose). As compared to MH370, they had a very small area to start looking for surface debris in the Atlantic Ocean and at least knew where to start looking.

But even after finding the surface debris and bodies....it still took them 2 years to find the bulk of the plane on the ocean floor and the black boxes. The debris field on the ocean floor was reportedly quite compact. And in fact, it was not that far from where they initially found the floating debris 2 years earlier. So, Lilia Belle's point is well taken....it did take them 2 years to really find the plane. And that was with a whole lot more information than they have about MH370.