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[scotttie]

On 11/2/2014 MomTo2Dogs said:

On 11/2/2014 scotttie said:

MomTo2Dogs. I'm baaaaack. Just wanted you to know I came home and first thing I did was finish watching the video.

Hi scottie. I was posting on that other thread. Yikes.

Anyway what did you think?

1. OUTSTANDING

2. I was interested in the fact that they train them in Brussels before they go over and check them out in Brussels before they go home.

3. DIdnt know that Canada isn't sending anyone because they are concerned about the fact that THEY don't have a medivac. The only one is U>S> and if 2 docs got sick at the same time the American would get dibs because it's an American Medi Vac.

4. Fascinating that they are curing people with fluids and tylenol.

5. The main thing I learned was why it is spreading so fast and also what their protocol is for returning workers.

6. I did not like the moderator at all. Didn't care for her ""tone""

[Sunarrow685]

I still have one question since the beginning:

How can these wonderful Doctors volunteer to work in Africa (many for years) and yet balk at 21 days at home over here.

[Jig Saw]

I guarandamntee ya that if the quarantine was to protect their own lives they would not hesitate.

[scotttie]

On 11/2/2014 Blueskies2 said:

I still have one question since the beginning:

How can these wonderful Doctors volunteer to work in Africa (many for years) and yet balk at 21 days at home over here.

I agree with that.

In fact that IS the MSF protocol as stated on the video. They get checked out in Brussels so they are safe to fly home. Then they are supposed to stay home and rest. They can ride their bike, take their dog to the park and visit neighbors but NOWHERE did they say it was okay to go to public venues or public transportation.

They are supposed to rest.

AGain, they are NOT contagious until they are symptomatic. My issue is STILL that heaven forbid if they should become symptomatic then if they've been in public there will be a burden on the health dept. to do the contact tracing.

I don't know why this is such a big deal either, blueskies. Stay home and rest like you are supposed to by the MSF protocol.

[Sunarrow685]

On 11/2/2014 scotttie said:

On 11/2/2014 Blueskies2 said:

I still have one question since the beginning:

How can these wonderful Doctors volunteer to work in Africa (many for years) and yet balk at 21 days at home over here.

I agree with that.

In fact that IS the MSF protocol as stated on the video. They get checked out in Brussels so they are safe to fly home. Then they are supposed to stay home and rest. They can ride their bike, take their dog to the park and visit neighbors but NOWHERE did they say it was okay to go to public venues or public transportation.

They are supposed to rest.

AGain, they are NOT contagious until they are symptomatic. My issue is STILL that heaven forbid if they should become symptomatic then if they've been in public there will be a burden on the health dept. to do the contact tracing.

I don't know why this is such a big deal either, blueskies. Stay home and rest like you are supposed to by the MSF protocol.

Thank you, scotttie....I post rarely but read a lot and we agree on just about every subject.

eta: TY gato for the link.

[Say Nay]

On 11/2/2014 scotttie said:

On 11/2/2014 MomTo2Dogs said:

On 11/2/2014 scotttie said:

MomTo2Dogs. I'm baaaaack. Just wanted you to know I came home and first thing I did was finish watching the video.

Hi scottie. I was posting on that other thread. Yikes.

Anyway what did you think?

1. OUTSTANDING

2. I was interested in the fact that they train them in Brussels before they go over and check them out in Brussels before they go home.

3. DIdnt know that Canada isn't sending anyone because they are concerned about the fact that THEY don't have a medivac. The only one is U>S> and if 2 docs got sick at the same time the American would get dibs because it's an American Medi Vac.

4. Fascinating that they are curing people with fluids and tylenol.

5. The main thing I learned was why it is spreading so fast and also what their protocol is for returning workers.

6. I did not like the moderator at all. Didn't care for her "tone"

Cool, scottie I'm so glad you liked it! I didn't know about the medivac procedure either. Or the time it takes to clean the aircraft. It would be great if the international community can get more planes involved.

The moderator's piece on Liberia was interesting but I thought she inserted herself into the conversations too much when she should have been moderating.

[Say Nay]

YW blueskies.

[scotttie]

On 11/2/2014 MomTo2Dogs said:

On 11/2/2014 scotttie said:

On 11/2/2014 MomTo2Dogs said:

On 11/2/2014 scotttie said:

MomTo2Dogs. I'm baaaaack. Just wanted you to know I came home and first thing I did was finish watching the video.

Hi scottie. I was posting on that other thread. Yikes.

Anyway what did you think?

1. OUTSTANDING

2. I was interested in the fact that they train them in Brussels before they go over and check them out in Brussels before they go home.

3. DIdnt know that Canada isn't sending anyone because they are concerned about the fact that THEY don't have a medivac. The only one is U>S> and if 2 docs got sick at the same time the American would get dibs because it's an American Medi Vac.

4. Fascinating that they are curing people with fluids and tylenol.

5. The main thing I learned was why it is spreading so fast and also what their protocol is for returning workers.

6. I did not like the moderator at all. Didn't care for her "tone"

Cool, scottie I'm so glad you liked it! I didn't know about the medivac procedure either. Or the time it takes to clean the aircraft. It would be great if the international community can get more planes involved.

The moderator's piece on Liberia was interesting but I thought she inserted herself into the conversations too much when she should have been moderating.

I agree and a couple of her snide comments I didn't care for. Didn't think it was the place for it.

But yes, it was a great great seminar.

[Lynnj]

I am back. Just finished watching the webcast. Very interesting and informative. I think everyone needs to see this to help become more educated. I would love to see our cable news networks offering some sort of town hall, if you will, and televise a forum such as this. Allowing questions from all walks, with an understanding that there is no dumb question.

First, let me say that Tylenol needs to do a commercial about how it is used to help cure Ebola. LOL. But joking aside, i am amazed at how simple treatment is IF it is caught early...and treatment can begin early. It was heartbreaking to see those people lined up outside of the treatment facility, unable to get in because there were no beds available.

Like Scottie pointed out, I was amazed to learn about the medivac process, and how long it takes for a return trip to transport someone else due to protocols in cleaning up from the last transport. However, I do think it is necessary to sanitize after each transport.

I also was encouraged to hear about the protocol where the MFS personnel check back in through Brussels, and go through a process there before fully returning. There was no mention about the length of time one spends at this hub in Brussels. Does anyone know?

They did mention that a fever is one of the first symptoms, but didn't make mention as to how contagious one is at that point. Its obvious that once one gets the more serious symptoms they are more contagious, and death being the most toxic stage. I am still very curious about this fever stage, especially given the type of scenario I shared in an earlier post, where the person is out in public at the time a fever comes on.

I have no idea how we are going to end this in WA? It seems like to clear it completely it would take more resources, specifically medical personnel, then all countries combined have. And if countries send so many medical personnel there to help fight this, that leaves those countries short staffed, which concerns me especially if Ebola starts to spread more rapidly (and it will spread). That could lead to a situation where it would be out of control in more places then just WA.

Lastly, because I am who I am, I would be curious to listen to an opposing opinion of those shared at this conference. I am in agreement that probably much of what was shared is matter of fact, but I am not a doctor, nor am I qualified or educated in this subject matter to know if there is a difference of opinion. Its possible that there is no differing opinion, and I accept that, but I'd be interested in hearing it if were available.

Oh...the Eagles won, and Dallas lost today...woohoooo!!

[scotttie]

On 11/2/2014 Lynnj said:

I am back. Just finished watching the webcast. Very interesting and informative. I think everyone needs to see this to help become more educated. I would love to see our cable news networks offering some sort of town hall, if you will, and televise a forum such as this. Allowing questions from all walks, with an understanding that there is no dumb question.

First, let me say that Tylenol needs to do a commercial about how it is used to help cure Ebola. LOL. But joking aside, i am amazed at how simple treatment is IF it is caught early...and treatment can begin early. It was heartbreaking to see those people lined up outside of the treatment facility, unable to get in because there were no beds available.

Like Scottie pointed out, I was amazed to learn about the medivac process, and how long it takes for a return trip to transport someone else due to protocols in cleaning up from the last transport. However, I do think it is necessary to sanitize after each transport.

I also was encouraged to hear about the protocol where the MFS personnel check back in through Brussels, and go through a process there before fully returning. There was no mention about the length of time one spends at this hub in Brussels. Does anyone know?

They did mention that a fever is one of the first symptoms, but didn't make mention as to how contagious one is at that point. Its obvious that once one gets the more serious symptoms they are more contagious, and death being the most toxic stage. I am still very curious about this fever stage, especially given the type of scenario I shared in an earlier post, where the person is out in public at the time a fever comes on.

I have no idea how we are going to end this in WA? It seems like to clear it completely it would take more resources, specifically medical personnel, then all countries combined have. And if countries send so many medical personnel there to help fight this, that leaves those countries short staffed, which concerns me especially if Ebola starts to spread more rapidly (and it will spread). That could lead to a situation where it would be out of control in more places then just WA.

Lastly, because I am who I am, I would be curious to listen to an opposing opinion of those shared at this conference. I am in agreement that probably much of what was shared is matter of fact, but I am not a doctor, nor am I qualified or educated in this subject matter to know if there is a difference of opinion. Its possible that there is no differing opinion, and I accept that, but I'd be interested in hearing it if were available.

Oh...the Eagles won, and Dallas lost today...woohoooo!!

I think you are not terribly contagious at that stage That's why I believe they said they can stand at a distance. However, that is the point where if you are out in public, out of an abundance of caution they would have to do contact tracing, because there is some risk.