Re: MSF webcast on Ebola

Say Nay · ‎03-12-2010

On 11/2/2014 millieshops said:
On 11/1/2014 MomTo2Dogs said:
On 11/1/2014 scotttie said:
He just said that over there if they can give immediate treatment at first sign of fever they can save 70 percent but they are not able to catch those oftentimes because they are too busy taking care of the sickest.

Yes. They are so overburdened. And did you see the ill waiting outside because there are no beds?

I think that if our media had shown more of those overburdened hospitals as many times as they showed personnel in hazmat suits, the public would have understood way better why the epidemics occurred where they did and would have been less fearful of such a thing happening here.

An article in today's Newsday has an ebola forecast for the US this winter - we could see as few as 20 cases and even as many as 120. Given that we've already handled all but one case extremely well and have learned lots from those errors, I'm less and less afraid of ebola going forward.

It's great to read this. And I agree with you.

Ford, I urge you to watch the webcast if you have any concerns or questions about Ebola.

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focksie · ‎03-04-2012

On 11/2/2014 MomTo2Dogs said:
Hi focksie! I totally respect your opinion. It is different from mine. MSF has been extensively involved in hemorrhagic fever studies and patient care for decades. This includes Ebola. They have hands on experience in dealing with it. As was stated in the webcast they do not believe that Ebola is not fully understood.

I think a big part of the public's difficulty in understanding the illness is the result of stupidity in the media. Instead of interviewing random "experts" to sensationalize they should have stuck with the few who know the facts. At this point they can't unring the bell.

Thanks Gato.

Perhaps the media has been irresponsible in their reporting but I know that I will always be cynical when it comes to receiving medical information mostly as a result of some devastating and life-changing consequences of my medical care in the past. Not going to get into it, but my situation had such a simple solution and the various doctors I kept going to didn't know which end was up. I kept pleading with them and they kept pooh-poohing my symptoms.

So, our way of thinking is also very much a result of our experiences.

Say Nay · ‎03-12-2010

On 11/2/2014 focksie said:
On 11/2/2014 MomTo2Dogs said:
Hi focksie! I totally respect your opinion. It is different from mine. MSF has been extensively involved in hemorrhagic fever studies and patient care for decades. This includes Ebola. They have hands on experience in dealing with it. As was stated in the webcast they do not believe that Ebola is not fully understood.

I think a big part of the public's difficulty in understanding the illness is the result of stupidity in the media. Instead of interviewing random "experts" to sensationalize they should have stuck with the few who know the facts. At this point they can't unring the bell.

Thanks Gato.

Perhaps the media has been irresponsible in their reporting but I know that I will always be cynical when it comes to receiving medical information mostly as a result of some devastating and life-changing consequences of my medical care in the past. Not going to get into it, but my situation had such a simple solution and the various doctors I kept going to didn't know which end was up. I kept pleading with them and they kept pooh-poohing my symptoms.

So, our way of thinking is also very much a result of our experiences.

Sorry that happened focksie. There's no excuse for that. Shame on them!

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Deb1010again · ‎05-28-2013

On 11/1/2014 scotttie said:
I am on "pause" at the moment.

Cornish just said 3 things key in stopping it in Nigeria and Senegal:

Case Mangement

Contact Tracing

Public Education.

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This has been my point for a few days now, ever since Kaci refuses self quarantine.

IF returning medical workers refuse to self quarantine, then if they should, heaven forbid become symptomatic, this will put a large burden on local health departments, health authorities whatever you want to call it(public health officials). Large amounts of resources will be needed to trace/track all the people the returning hero (and I mean that seriously,--these people are heroes) came into contact with.

This resource drain will have to come from where? The efforts at flu management, this new enterovirus management, vaccine programs. The money and the resources have to come from somewhere in order to do this tracing. It will require manpower.

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So, I haven't heard yet why an at home quarantine is such a terrible thing. Yes, they are saying people don't want to go now but I don't get that so far.

Pause off. Back to listen.

Scottie, you bring up a good point. Someone has to do those daily visits. Public health departments aren't staffed to monitor a lot of people and do all those in-person visits every day.

Deb1010again · ‎05-28-2013

Question, what about healthcare workers in the US who work with Ebola patients? Why should there be a double standard about quarantine when comparing them with their West African counterparts? What's the justification?

Lynnj · ‎03-21-2010

I just typed out a long response to Focksie and Gato, but for some reason it didn't come through. I didn't use any words not allowed. I hit submit and it was gone. No post, no error message. grrrr.

I'll type again later, but Focksie, I 100% agree with your post #51 and #56. Its because of the possibilities that i think we need to continue to be prudent and cautious. I am not running for the hills because of the possibilities, but I think science and research needs to continue and help advance understanding to rule out possibilities.

Havent watched the video yet, and now football has started, so hopefully tonight.

Lynnj · ‎03-21-2010

On 11/2/2014 Deb1010again said:
Question, what about healthcare workers in the US who work with Ebola patients? Why should there be a double standard about quarantine when comparing them with their West African counterparts? What's the justification?

I don't think that there should be a double standard. If its good for one, its good for all. High risk is high risk no matter what location that high risk occurs.

And like someone posted on one of the other threads (can't remember who or what thread, been many lately) others are watching us and taking note. Our processes, or lack of, can become a point of national security.

Say Nay · ‎03-12-2010

On 11/2/2014 Lynnj said:
I just typed out a long response to Focksie and Gato, but for some reason it didn't come through. I didn't use any words not allowed. I hit submit and it was gone. No post, no error message. grrrr.

I'll type again later, but Focksie, I 100% agree with your post #51 and #56. Its because of the possibilities that i think we need to continue to be prudent and cautious. I am not running for the hills because of the possibilities, but I think science and research needs to continue and help advance understanding to rule out possibilities.

Havent watched the video yet, and now football has started, so hopefully tonight.

I hate when that happens.

I was watching the Charger v Miami game. I couldn't take anymore and had to switch channels lol Look forward to reading your thoughts on the webcast Lynn.

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