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[AngusandBuddhasMom]

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

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@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:

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@Jackaranda wrote:

Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do. 

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Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to. 

The same as saying she asked for it.

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What is the law on this?  Is it illegal to post any photo of a person without their consent?  A photo in a very revealing bathing suit? A naked photo she posed for?

I know it is illegal to post photos of naked children - regardless of how innocent and who's doing it.  But I honestly don't know what the law is on a photo taken of someone who posed for the photo and then later objected to anyone else seeing it.

As noted in some of the articles I've seen, it's probably easier to come down on the officers for conduct unbecoming, but for the enlisted - unless porn is now illegal to view or if the photos were taken without the woman's knowledge, I'm wondering what the law is.

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Here is an interesting article on it:

 https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/articles/marines-nude-photo-scandal-congress-ncis

[NicksmomESQ]

@Tinkrbl44 I was specifically referring to the topic of nude photos!! Being out in public & getting caught in the background of someone's picture is different than snapping a naked picture of someone when they are unaware your'e doing it!! So your comment about having to walk around with disclaimers is off base!! This thread is about naked pictures not people out in public sitting at a table ending up in someone's photo unintentionally!!

[Tinkrbl44]

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@NicksmomESQ wrote:

@Tinkrbl44 I was specifically referring to the topic of nude photos!! Being out in public & getting caught in the background of someone's picture is different than snapping a naked picture of someone when they are unaware your'e doing it!! So your comment about having to walk around with disclaimers is off base!! This thread is about naked pictures not people out in public sitting at a table ending up in someone's photo unintentionally!!

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@NicksmomESQ

Ok, thanks for the clarification.  I took your post at face value, as other posts also commented on photos with or without clothing.   Any photos, period.

[sunshine45]

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

Most were taken without consent.

A few were taken for their boyfriends only but were passed around.

Gee, get the facts right and don't always be so quick to jump the gun and blame women.  Where is your outrage for the men who hid and took secret photos?

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Do you have a cite for that?  This one says the photos were posed:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/politics/marines-united-photos-investigation/

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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Nude-Images-Marines-Secret-Facebook-Group-Allred-415701413.h...

"Through the page, users shared nude images of female Marines, veterans and other women, some of which were taken without their knowledge."

[Isobel Archer]

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@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

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@AngusandBuddhasMom wrote:

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@Jackaranda wrote:

Women were stupid to take them and the men were stupid to post them. Young people do not always have the maturity we think they do. 

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Just because a woman takes a photo does not give anyone the right to publish it without her consent. That is blaming the victim for something she has not agreed to. 

The same as saying she asked for it.

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What is the law on this?  Is it illegal to post any photo of a person without their consent?  A photo in a very revealing bathing suit? A naked photo she posed for?

I know it is illegal to post photos of naked children - regardless of how innocent and who's doing it.  But I honestly don't know what the law is on a photo taken of someone who posed for the photo and then later objected to anyone else seeing it.

As noted in some of the articles I've seen, it's probably easier to come down on the officers for conduct unbecoming, but for the enlisted - unless porn is now illegal to view or if the photos were taken without the woman's knowledge, I'm wondering what the law is.

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Here is an interesting article on it:

 https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/articles/marines-nude-photo-scandal-congress-ncis

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Thanks.  The article is a bit confusing.  Early on, it says that under military law, a person can be charged with "indecent viewing" but then later says that it will be hard to charge anyone who simply viewed the photos and did not pass them on or otherwise comment on them.

If it is against military law to view something "indecent" then I guess anyone who looks at porn could also be charged.

And how would someone viewing the photos know if they were "consented" to or not?

If, as the CNN article says, the photos were posed, (and if the women did NOT want them distributed),  it appears that there are a lot of women who have exceedingly poor judgment regarding their boyfriends - which is scary when you think about it.

[Carmie]

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@SilleeMee wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but in this day and age I am astounded by how much nudity still bothers so many people. Yes, I can understand and respect those who wish not to have their nude bodies exposed without consent, but the public reaction to this whole thing is what I'm amazed at.

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It wasn't just the nude bodies that were exposed.  The pictures came with the female marines name, age, rank, where she was stationed and her address and sometimes her phone number and e-mail address.  This allowed the " good ol boys" to harass and blackmail the women.

i would not want  that info out there about me if I was fully clothed and wearing a winter parka.  I would publish the names, address etc. of the male marines who posted and viewed the site.  You had to have a password to view it. 

Where is that person who busted the Ashley Madison website?  I am sure the Marine's wives and girlfriends would like to know how sleazy their partners are.

[sunshine45]

this is also particularly disturbing......

"The women's lawyer, Gloria Allred, said there may be hundreds of such postings and that they prompted pornographic and violent replies, including some recommending that female Marines be raped or shot."

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Nude-Images-Marines-Secret-Facebook-Group-Allred-415701413.h...

[Mj12]

And while the first website was shut down, the owners just moved it to a different web address.   

http://wgntv.com/2017/03/09/secret-marine-group-continues-sharing-nude-photos/

[chickenbutt]

Some of this reminds me of the old 'she was wearing a short skirt, so she deserved to be raped'.     

Now that things have taken such a horrible turn, I don't see this getting any better.     sad

[Qshopper1991]

I work for one of the Branches of the Military. 

You would be shocked what goes on.  This is childs play (believe me, not down playing it, but this is one of the milder things that happens).

And even more shocked of what your tax dollars pay for.