LA FIRES - HAZARDOUS WASTE REMOVAL - Page 2

Mz iMac · ‎07-26-2014

@Tinkrbl44 What's different w/this fire that has not occurred w/all the past fires Cally gets every year?

"Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

monicakm · ‎03-16-2010

Does California have residential fires of this magnitude every year?

qbetzforreal · ‎08-28-2010

@Mz iMac wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 What's different w/this fire that has not occurred w/all the past fires Cally gets every year?

@Mz iMac- I'm in LA. Fires are usually in the rural areas of the state.

These fires effected a neighborhood (Palisades) and a city (Altadena), both are near brush areas.

January is typically rainy and damp. It wasn't this year. While we have to contend with the Santa Ana winds, they usually come around March.

Dry and high winds not a good combination.

qbetzforreal · ‎08-28-2010

@monicakm wrote:
@Mz iMac

Does California have residential fires of this magnitude every year?

Not in the LA. In the country and rural. There was the Paradise fire in Northern California in 2018 and the 2020 fires in Napa and Sonoma counties No Cal.

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@qbetzforreal wrote:
Waste is going to sites in Malibu and Duarte/Azusa. @Tinkrbl44

@qbetzforreal @Tinkrbl44 Lario Park in Irwindale is being used as atemporary site for sorting and preparing the waste for transportation.

Where is the final destination???

I have not seen anything about Malibu but I believe the Duarte/Azusa areas are about the residents concerned about Lario Park nearby, not that the waste is being transported to Duarte/Azusa areas.

The residents were never told Lario Park would be used as a temporary site.

Even as a temporary site air quality and seepage into ground water is very concerning.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

Long term effects are yet to be seen. This is a horrendous tragedy.

Anytime these disasters happen cleanups are at the forefront of concern but when will we know how people, animals, and nature will survive later on?

Palestine OH is still dealing with health issues two years later and those issues are the ones that are known.

How long did it take for Love Canal to be declared "safe" to be rebuilt?

I fear for everyone affected by these tragedies because although they are at the forefront of suffering, in the end we are all affected when Mother Earth is harmed.

People will forget as time passes but years to come will be the proof that nobody is safe from environmental disasters.

It's troubling.😞

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

CalminHeart · ‎03-09-2010

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
Honestly ..... I hope I'm over-reacting.

It now looks like the hazardous waste cleanup could be even more dangerous than the actual fires!

There will be billions of "toxic waste micro-particles" in the air for months, until the debris removal has been completed. And perhaps beyond, unless the winds push them east.

We're getting a little rain this week, so it will help clean our air, for a brief time.

I'm already hearing that the community surrounding the Eaton fire is very upset about the air quality during debris removal, and it has only recently begun.

(Does anyone know where all this debris will be taken?)

Apparently, there will be days when residents are told to please stay home unless they really need to be out ... and that might go on for several weeks.

I'm worried about what this will do to our wildlife .... especially bees and birds.

What about family pets?

First thing to come to mind ..... I put several masks in a Ziploc bag and put them in my glove compartment.

Any thoughts and all suggestions are welcome ... TIA

KN95 masks are probably the best you can do. I'm so sorry for all that Californians are going through. I'm sure it's tougher than most think.

Do you have a good air purifier in your home? I do and have it set to run every night for 6 hours.

I wondered about air quality. Air moves west to east and I actually wondered how it would affect the rest of the country.

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
Honestly ..... I hope I'm over-reacting.

It now looks like the hazardous waste cleanup could be even more dangerous than the actual fires!

There will be billions of "toxic waste micro-particles" in the air for months, until the debris removal has been completed. And perhaps beyond, unless the winds push them east.

We're getting a little rain this week, so it will help clean our air, for a brief time.

I'm already hearing that the community surrounding the Eaton fire is very upset about the air quality during debris removal, and it has only recently begun.

(Does anyone know where all this debris will be taken?)

Apparently, there will be days when residents are told to please stay home unless they really need to be out ... and that might go on for several weeks.

I'm worried about what this will do to our wildlife .... especially bees and birds.

What about family pets?

First thing to come to mind ..... I put several masks in a Ziploc bag and put them in my glove compartment.

Any thoughts and all suggestions are welcome ... TIA

That's exacty why all the "environmental" opposition to cleaning up the forests and other debris, the insistence on sending the water to the Pacific rather than saving it to fight fires, etc. etc. end up doing more harm than good. First in the loss of lives - and now at the actual cost to the environment of the result of the fires.

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

Will be interesting to see who gets the contracts to "clean up the toxic waste." Follow the money. Who says "saving the environment" can't be profitable?