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[SandPiper]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@SandPiper wrote:

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@SahmIam wrote:

If you want or need sharp knives, you drive to a store and buy them. People did this all the time before online ordering so, no big deal.

Steak knives are not found in public eateries. Scissors are not found in schools, btw. There is a movement to bring back "dangerous play" at schools and playgrounds (climbing trees, building with planks and bricks, etc) to counteract all the safety measures the UK took over the years.

Bottom line: if a person wants to harm someone, they WILL find a way. Anything can be made into a deadly object with the intent to harm. Anything.

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I was just wondering how I could make my cat's spongey soccer ball toys (as I was just tossing him several) into deadly objects.

I don't think I could.  And my toothbrush which I just used, nope, not that either. 

So, no, not anything.  And that's just 2 items I came in contact with in the past 20 minutes.

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@QueenDanceALot There are instructions online on how to make a knife out of your toothbrush. Cross toothbrush off. 

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@SandPiper

When I hear of a mass murder with toothbrushes converted to knives I'll cross it off.

I continue to find the comparison of things like this to guns to be absurd.

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@QueenDanceALot@ I thought your answer was to @sahmlam post saying  anything could be made into a deadly object. I didn’t see any reference to guns in her particular post. If I misunderstood, so sorry. 

[Isobel Archer]

As to mass murder - bombs are also effective.

As were box cutters and airplanes.

People are innovative when they want to be.

[YorkieonmyPillow]

  There is no point in discussing this.

  "Agree to disagree."

[tansy]

This whole thread is a silly *gotcha* attempt.  

[gardenman]

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

As to mass murder - bombs are also effective.

As were box cutters and airplanes.

People are innovative when they want to be.

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Poison is also very effective. We saw it with the Tylenol murders in 1982. It's not terribly hard to defeat the check valves on municipal water supplies to allow someone to inject poison to endanger everyone downstream of them. Restaurants and grocery stores tend to have exposed food (salad bars, produce, etc.) that could be easily tainted. More and more we're seeing people use vehicles as mass murder weapons. You can't regulate away murder. If someone wants to kill, they'll find a way.

[Ms tyrion2]

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@tansy wrote:

This whole thread is a silly *gotcha* attempt.  

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That was exactly my impression too.

[suzyQ3]

"You can't regulate away murder."

Has anyone here or elsewere stated this as a possibility? Of course not. But many, many, many, many perople are looking at steps (not solutions) that can be taken at least to put sensible limits on weapons of mass destruction in anyone's hands, especially those who should not have been able to purchase them in the first place.

But wait, you say that they can get their hands on them one way or another. You say that there are already regulations on the books. You say that the root cause is mental illness, not the weapon of choice. You say that where there's a will there's a way evidenced by those who kill in other ways than with guns.

We can never rid the world of such weapons, but any limit will help. The regs on the books should be more strictly enforced. And there is no other weapon that even approaches the crisis that we are in. To muse about them is pure deflection from the elephant in the room.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

"You can't regulate away murder."

Has anyone here or elsewere stated this as a possibility? Of course not. But many, many, many, many perople are looking at steps (not solutions) that can be taken at least to put sensible limits on weapons of mass destruction in anyone's hands, especially those who should not have been able to purchase them in the first place.

But wait, you say that they can get their hands on them one way or another. You say that there are already regulations on the books. You say that the root cause is mental illness, not the weapon of choice. You say that where there's a will there's a way evidenced by those who kill in other ways than with guns.

We can never rid the world of such weapons, but any limit will help. The regs on the books should be more strictly enforced. And there is no other weapon that even approaches the crisis that we are in. To muse about them is pure deflection from the elephant in the room.

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The bigger question is that weapons of all kinds have been around since the beginning of time, why are people so willing to use them on each other now.  What has changed?  Certanly not access to weapons.

[QueenDanceALot]

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@tansy wrote:

This whole thread is a silly *gotcha* attempt.  

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BINGO!